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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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Hi Deedee,

 

Before I answer the Q's posed in your last post, could you post up the exact details as they appear on the Notice you have received this morning.

 

I may not reply for an hour or so, as I am off to go and get my morning latte, my brain doesn't really wake up until I've had my caffeine fix! lol

 

Back a little later.....

 

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Cool. I will upload to Photobucket (wish me luck).

 

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Here it is. I hope it comes up clearly

 

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One last thing. They have spelt my name incorrectly on the AOE. My first name is missing a letter, so am I right in assuming that they have technically not served on the correct person?

 

After re-examining my credit file, my name is spelt incorrectly on the entry showing the judgement, which means that they obtained a judgement against me with the incorrectly spelled version of my name.

 

Any thoughts?

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Hi Deedee,

 

Sorry for not getting back to you earlier, something came up!

 

Okay firstly, the Application Notice needs to filed on Monday without exception, so that we can do all in our power to stop the AoE going ahead and also to prevent your employment details being furnished to the enemy!:mad:

 

Secondly, you have been instructed to provide said information within 8 days of receipt of the Order. I suggest you ring the Crt 1st thing on Monday morning and tell them you received the Order on Monday (16th July, not the whole truth, but morals are not the issue here!) and that it is your intention to submit your request for a set-aside on Monday also. If you have to make the phone-call and get someone else to take the paperwork to the Court, then do that. Confirm with the member of Crt staff (I would ask to speak to a Manager, and make sure you get their name) that you have until the 24th July?? to do the AoE. Also ask, given that you are submitting an app notice for a set aside, do you need to ask in that notice for the AoE to be stayed until the set-aside is dealt with? Only a senior person at the Crt can deal with this, so please don't deal with the foot soldiers, it will jeopardise your case!

 

You need to be sure in submitting the app notice, that it will address and delay/stop the action, vis a vis the AoE Order. If things don't go your way and you have until the 24th July to submit the AoE, hopefully the app notice will cancel out the AoE Order. When you take the App Notice to the Crt, you must state that it is a very urgent application and ask when the Judge will see it, given that it's of the utmost urgency. If you don't use this language, you will end up on a long waiting list and the AoE will have been set in motion! When it's your future at stake, you need to be as forthright and proactive as a situation demands, there's no room for being a wallflower! Courts just process cases, they don't have the time to give a damn about anything else, so it's up to you to do all you can to move the case in a way you want it to go, in your favour, hopefully!

 

I think the Courts open for queries at 10am. I will send you a PM with my mobile, so you can call me between 11am-1pm if you need further advice on Monday.

 

Regards,

 

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Dee Dee - Subscribing

 

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Thanks Brassed Off.

 

I have been following your thread for the last two weeks as you seem to be having as much "fun" with CrapQuest as I am.

 

Keep on at them and don't let it get to the CCJ stage. The bar stewards are making my blood boil :-x

 

Best of Luck to you too. :)

 

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This is the wording I intend to use on my N244.

 

I wish to apply for a set aside as I did not receive the response pack at the time of application. If I had, I would have submitted a defence against the Claimant as I believe that no agreement exists between the Claimant and myself.

 

I was unaware of the existence of this debt until I received a recent copy of my credit file held with Experian. I then requested a Consumer Credit Agreement from the Claimant on 15 June 2007 under s.77 (1) of the Consumer Credit Act 1974, to enable me to establish the ownership of this debt. I also made this request to assist me with establishing the identity of the original creditor, as I do not believe that this identity belongs to the Claimant. This request has been ignored by the Claimant and has now been in default since 2 July 2007. A copy of my request is attached to this Application.

 

Until ownership of the debt can be established. I respectfully request that the order be granted in order to facilitate this.

 

 

Can anyone comment? Thanks, in advance.

 

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Can anyone also advise as to whether the mis-spelling of a name can invalidate a judgement? I remember when studying the Law of Contract a very long time ago, that the names of the parties had to be correctly spelt as this could invalidate the contract.

 

CrapQuest have consistenly presented an incorretly spelt version of my name to both the CRA and the Court. I'm also trying to do my own research into this but would appreciate any answers.

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it doesn't invalidate a judgement, but it does make it much easier to have it set aside if, e.g. you didn't respond to it. It is a criminal offence to open someone elses mail, so you can simply say you didn't open it:)

 

p.s. it WOULD invalidate a default notice, or a notice of assignment, however, meaning that (for a consumer credit dispute), the judgement would have been improperly granted.

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Thank you tomterm.

 

I will re-word my N244 and post it here for inspection! :)

 

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I wish to apply for a set aside as I did not receive the response pack at the time of application. If I had, I would have submitted a defence against the Claimant as I believe that no agreement exists between the Claimant and myself.

 

I was unaware of the existence of this debt until I received a recent copy of my credit file held with Experian. I then requested a Consumer Credit Agreement from the Claimant on 15 June 2007 under s.77 (1) of the Consumer Credit Act 1974, to enable me to establish the ownership of this debt. I also made this request to assist me with establishing the identity of the original creditor, as I do not believe that this identity belongs to the Claimant. This request has been ignored by the Claimant and has now been in default since 2 July 2007. A copy of my request is attached to this Application.

 

I believe that my name has also been spelt incorrectly on the original judgement as it is the incorrect version that is shown on my credit file. It is my understanding that the Credit Reference Agencies only hold information that is considered to be accurate, as given to them by the reporting creditor. In my case, this information is incorrect. It is my belief that as a result of this, the judgement has been improperly granted.

 

Until ownership of the debt can be established. I respectfully request that the order be granted in order to facilitate this.

 

Once again any comments are appreciated.

 

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Deedee,

 

The letter should start, Respectfully, I wish to apply for a set-aside of the Judgment given in this case to the Claimant, Capquest.

 

I will look at the rest of it later as I have to go out.

 

Regards,

 

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Thanks again Laiste.

 

I look forward to hearing from you later.

 

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I wish to apply for a set aside as I did not receive the response pack when the claim was issued. Had I received the claim, I would have submitted a defence and counter-claim against the Claimant, as it is my belief that no credit agreement exists.

I was totally unaware of the existence of the County Court Judgment, until very recently, when I obtained a copy of my credit file from Experian. On the basis of that information, I requested a copy of the credit agreement on the 15th June 2007, from the Claimant, that the alleged debt refers to, under s.77 (1) of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. My request has been completely ignored by the Claimant and they have now been in default of said request since 2 July 2007. I have enclosed a copy of the letter sent to the Claimant, as evidence of my request.

 

Additionally, my name has been spelt incorrectly on the original Judgment and it also appears incorrectly on my credit file. It is my understanding that the Credit Reference Agencies only hold information that is considered to be accurate, given to them by the reporting creditor. In this situation, my personal details are wrong. It is my contention that as a result of this and the aformentioned reasons, the Judgment has been improperly granted.

 

I would therefore respectfully ask the Court to set-aside the Judgment, on the basis that I never received the claim pack and consequently was denied the opportunity to respond to the claim; which I would have done as it is my sincerely held belief that no credit agreement exists.

 

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Hi Deedee,

 

I've changed quite a bit of it, I hope you don't mind!

 

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You are a star. :D You kept the essential things that I had written in any case :p .

 

I am amending my N244 as we speak. I will try and submit it, during my lunch break. Do you think I should try and speak to the Court Manager in person too or just stick to the phone?

 

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It makes my blood boil! Once I got over the "sick" feeling I felt as I opened the letter, it turned to cold fury. HOW DARE THEY?!

 

Anyway I hope my N244 does the trick tomorrow as will a conversation with the Court Manager. This is the last thing I need. I did worry about this one initially as I knew that they hadn't tried to enforce the debt and would probably start to, once I had started to make enquiries.

 

Wish me luck for tomorrow. :o :mad:

 

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Hi Deedee,

 

I wouldn't bother trying to speak with the Court Manager in person, as Monday is their busiest day, so the chances are very remote indeed!

 

I hope all goes well with your submission tomorrow and querying the AoE.

 

Regards,

 

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Thank you Laiste.

 

You seem to keep as long hours as I do!

 

I will let you know how I get on.

 

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Hi deedee

 

Sorry, I was following this one, but haven't checked in for a couple of days:o

 

I often wonder if aliens run all the DCA's,;) as they seem to operate in a totally amoralistic and inhuman manner.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to wish you all the very best for today; but with the excellent support and advice you have been given, and that wonderful brain of yours, I am convinced you will be fine.

 

Now I need to get back to sleep - I think I have caught your habit of waking up at this time!

 

You are in my thoughts as always.

 

Lotsa luv

 

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Hi deedee

 

Subscribing - and wishing you all the luck in the world for today ;)

 

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Thank you everyone for your kind messages. I am now back from Court.

 

Will update later, as I left my bed suffering with a raging fever to go and submit the documents, and now feel close to fainting. So back to bed I go!

 

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Oh Deedee you poor thing.

 

All this stress has obviously taken it's toll on you. Make sure you have a proper rest, and let us know when you feel better.

 

Thinking of you, and wishing you well.

 

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Hi deedee, hope you're feeling a little better!

 

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