Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

    • I have looked at the car park and it is quite clearly marked that it is  pay to park  and advising that there are cameras installed so kind of difficult to dispute that. On the other hand it doesn't appear to state at the entrance what the charge is for breaching their rules. However they do have a load of writing in the two notices under the entrance sign which it would help if you could photograph legible copies of them. Also legible photos of the signs inside the car park as well as legible photos of the payment signs. I say legible because the wording of their signs is very important as to whether they have formed a contract with motorists. For example the entrance sign itself doe not offer a contract because it states the T&Cs are inside the car park. But the the two signs below may change that situation which is why we would like to see them. I have looked at their Notice to Keeper which is pretty close to what it should say apart from one item. Under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 Section 9 [2]a] the PCN should specify the period of parking. It doesn't. It does show the ANPR times but that includes driving from the entrance to the parking spot and then from the parking place to the exit. I know that this is a small car park but the Act is quite clear that the parking period must be specified. That failure means that the keeper is no longer responsible for the charge, only the driver is now liable to pay. Should this ever go to Court , Judges do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person so ECP will have their work cut out deciding who was driving. As long as they do not know, it will be difficult for them to win in Court which is one reason why we advise not to appeal since the appeal can lead to them finding out at times that the driver  and the keeper were the same person. You will get loads of threats from ECP and their sixth rate debt collectors and solicitors. They will also keep quoting ever higher amounts owed. Do not worry, the maximum. they can charge is the amount on the sign. Anything over that is unlawful. You can safely ignore the drivel from the Drips but come back to us should you receive a Letter of Claim. That will be the Snotty letter time.
    • please stop using @username - sends unnecessary alerts to people. everyone that's posted on your thread inc you gets an automatic email alert when someone else posts.  
    • he Fraser group own Robin park in Wigan. The CEO's email  is  [email protected]
    • Yes, it was, but in practice we've found time after time that judges will not rule against PPCs solely on the lack of PP.  They should - but they don't.  We include illegal signage in WSs, but more as a tactic to show the PPC up as spvis rather than in the hope that the judge will act on that one point alone. But sue them for what?  They haven't really done much apart from sending you stupid letters. Breach of GDPR?  It could be argued they knew you had Supremacy of Contact but it's a a long shot. Trespass to your vehicle?  I know someone on the Parking Prankster blog did that but it's one case out of thousands. Surely best to defy them and put the onus on them to sue you.  Make them carry the risk.  And if they finally do - smash them. If you want, I suppose you could have a laugh at the MA's expense.  Tell them about the criminality they have endorsed and give them 24 hours to have your tickets cancelled and have the signs removed - otherwise you will contact the council to start enforcement for breach of planning permission.
    • Developing computer games can be wildly expensive so some hope that AI can cut the cost.View the full article
  • Recommended Topics

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like
  • Recommended Topics

Natwest Accout Closed and 7 days notice for overdraft repy


cityhunter
style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 6533 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

Hello, I have been with natwest for 5 years. now they sent me a letter saying,

The Bank has carried out a review of your banking arrangements and has decided that it is now only prepared to offer you a linited banking service. with immediate effecr your account can only be used for the servicing of your loan account and the withdrawl in cash of any cleared balances. The banl is unwilling to enter into any further discussion with you rearding its decision and is unforunately not in a position to provide any references on your behalf

 

Please make arrangemets to repy your current account brrowing within 7 days from the date of this letter.:(:Cry:

 

I have used my overdraft of £3500 out of £4000. I never gone over my overdraft limit, so there are no charges in my bank account from the date of the account open. my pay also going direct to that account. there is nothing worng in my account, but still they closed my account

 

now natwest wants me to repay it with in 7 days. I won't be able to do that at present. I can pay samll amouts every month.

 

Bank is sending me letters with Debt recovery action. I.e recovery agents will be instructed to collect them .

 

 

can any one give me some information about

 

1) how to pay small repayments to bank?

2) does it effect my credit record ?

3) recovery agents seize my assets?

 

Many thanks

Link to post
Share on other sites

See if you can get an account with another bank with a large overdraft facility... it's a long shot but you could pay off this overdraft from that account. Or a loan maybe?

 

"Are not prepared to enter into further discussion with you regarding their decision"

 

WTF??!? What did you do?!

Link to post
Share on other sites

Speak to your local Citizen Advice Beauro. They should be able to help.

 

Is the bank responding like this because you asked for your charges to be repaid?

I will gladly donate 5% of reclaimed charges to CAG!

Link to post
Share on other sites

Stone laughter,

 

Don't know!!!! :???: there is nothing worng in my account , my pay also going direct to that account. No charges at all from the date of account open... nothing worng.... but natwest is not telling me reason for closing the account. they says its a business decision. ..............:???::???::???::???::(

Link to post
Share on other sites

I gather this action by the bank has been prompted by ongoing account problems rather than you starting action against them to recover illegal charges?

 

If so you should start the process we are all on in here which is to get our money back. which should solve a few probs for you.

 

Also once you start this process the account is officially 'in dispute' and they cannot report you to a credit reference agency and default you. (in theory!) 13.6 of the Banking Code) However they dont always play fair as you are finding.

 

As Stonelaughter rightly says try and get another account immediately, whilst this advances,your credit reference is going downhill and you need a basic account to move to.

 

There is another thread post on this forum today (cant remember name)all about this same dilemma. i'll find it and post it for you.

 

Most important of all spend the next couple of days on here reading the FAQs and the postings. you'll get loads of advice and support.

 

You could get all your charges back and get them off your back properly

 

good luck

Kate:)

Link to post
Share on other sites

Just a thought,

 

give the Banking Ombudsman a call. Through their guidance you could launch an official complaint, disputing the circumstances of the account closure (effectively). That would put you into dispute and deter them from defaulting you to the Credit Reference Agency, if you can't pay off your overdraft.

They are being very harsh and you deserve an explanation.

 

Good luck

Kate

Link to post
Share on other sites

Well it is very mysterious.

You may any claim against the bank and they have no reason at all to terminate or very your contract in this way.

I am quite sure that the only way to deal with this is by force. This means that you must apply for an immediate injunction to prevent them from closing your account. You must do it on the basis that there is an implied term of a contract that they will apply their discretion reasonably in that they will not unreasonably close your account and that if they do grow your account they will give you reasonable notice and give you reasonable terms for the repayment of any debt.

The other thing that is on its way is a default notice. Once they did you notice to repay your overdraft if you are able to do it within the timescale which they set then they will default you and your name will be entered on the credit register and you will be unable to do anything about it until it is removed in six years time.

You have to decide immediately with you want to do something about it. I have no expectation that any approach or attempted dialogue or negotiation will do you any good at all. Once these people start moving they are like an ocean tanker. It takes days for the thing to stop or to turnaround.

If you decide to take some action, the first thing you should do is you should go to the template library get the section 10 notice and served on them suitably modified to match your circumstances.

You should then get the necessary claim form and applying for an injunction immediately and then immediately apply for an interim injunction and it may be that if you only have seven days, that you will have to apply for an interim injunction without notice as a matter of urgency.

If you really have not trouble the bank in anyway then I would expect that you will have the judges for sympathy and that you will be up to put the bank on their back foot

Link to post
Share on other sites

Can you PM a copy of the letter that you received giving you notification of the account closure please.. I may be able to helpfurther - also can you clarify what if any correspondance you received prior to this demand letter - as, indeed I think it breaches the Banking Code and thus FSA regulations if they are demanding repayment within 28 dyads. Yes they can demand repayment (although BF has already made it clear that this is probably a breach of contract on their behalf),but where they do, as Bookworm alludes to - they must provide you with sufficient notice of termination or ammendment to contract or terms and conditions - this is usually 28 days.

"BA Group. The World's favourite CA Group"

 

HSBC 2 claims amalgamated. £1195. settled in full prior to filing claim.

BARCLAYS settled in full 2 days prior to submission of defence by Barclays

CAP ONE settled in full on day 14 of LBA (£210)

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...