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    • What do you guys think the chances are for her?   She followed the law, they didnt, then they engage in deception, would the judge take kindly to being lied to by these clowns? If we have a case then we should proceed and not allow these blatant dishonest cheaters to succeed 
    • I have looked at the car park and it is quite clearly marked that it is  pay to park  and advising that there are cameras installed so kind of difficult to dispute that. On the other hand it doesn't appear to state at the entrance what the charge is for breaching their rules. However they do have a load of writing in the two notices under the entrance sign which it would help if you could photograph legible copies of them. Also legible photos of the signs inside the car park as well as legible photos of the payment signs. I say legible because the wording of their signs is very important as to whether they have formed a contract with motorists. For example the entrance sign itself doe not offer a contract because it states the T&Cs are inside the car park. But the the two signs below may change that situation which is why we would like to see them. I have looked at their Notice to Keeper which is pretty close to what it should say apart from one item. Under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 Section 9 [2]a] the PCN should specify the period of parking. It doesn't. It does show the ANPR times but that includes driving from the entrance to the parking spot and then from the parking place to the exit. I know that this is a small car park but the Act is quite clear that the parking period must be specified. That failure means that the keeper is no longer responsible for the charge, only the driver is now liable to pay. Should this ever go to Court , Judges do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person so ECP will have their work cut out deciding who was driving. As long as they do not know, it will be difficult for them to win in Court which is one reason why we advise not to appeal since the appeal can lead to them finding out at times that the driver  and the keeper were the same person. You will get loads of threats from ECP and their sixth rate debt collectors and solicitors. They will also keep quoting ever higher amounts owed. Do not worry, the maximum. they can charge is the amount on the sign. Anything over that is unlawful. You can safely ignore the drivel from the Drips but come back to us should you receive a Letter of Claim. That will be the Snotty letter time.
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    • Yes, it was, but in practice we've found time after time that judges will not rule against PPCs solely on the lack of PP.  They should - but they don't.  We include illegal signage in WSs, but more as a tactic to show the PPC up as spvis rather than in the hope that the judge will act on that one point alone. But sue them for what?  They haven't really done much apart from sending you stupid letters. Breach of GDPR?  It could be argued they knew you had Supremacy of Contact but it's a a long shot. Trespass to your vehicle?  I know someone on the Parking Prankster blog did that but it's one case out of thousands. Surely best to defy them and put the onus on them to sue you.  Make them carry the risk.  And if they finally do - smash them. If you want, I suppose you could have a laugh at the MA's expense.  Tell them about the criminality they have endorsed and give them 24 hours to have your tickets cancelled and have the signs removed - otherwise you will contact the council to start enforcement for breach of planning permission.
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      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

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      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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Called at Dundee Sheriff Court earlier today.

 

They have not been presented with any new cases for a while, but they will be looked at on a case to case basis (i.e. no "blanket" sisting).

 

They have not been approached, as yet, to lift any sists already in place but will look at these if and when they come up.

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Hi there, I am at the stage of filling in my court forms, and I thought I will take a look at how other Scottish courts are dealing with sists.

 

My local sheriff court is in Tain, Ross-Shire. Looking at the court rolls , there seems like there has not been a case of this type listed. Has anyone had any joy with Tain Sheriff having their stays lifted?

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looking at the daily lists......there is nothing, best to phone up or better still go in,usually the clerks are quite helpful ,if you can given that court is quite near Inverness SC (relatively), it may well be that the cases are not sisted, or a sist can be fought

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Can anyone help me? I have unsuccessfully tried to claim back bank charges from Nationwide. I started by claiming back in May of 2007 but have been fobbed off with letters about awaiting test case results and my last leteer was just a standard bank charge letter about terms and conditons. I have no idea what do do next! Please help. xxxxxx

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Can anyone help me? I have unsuccessfully tried to claim back bank charges from Nationwide. I started by claiming back in May of 2007 but have been fobbed off with letters about awaiting test case results and my last leteer was just a standard bank charge letter about terms and conditons. I have no idea what do do next! Please help. xxxxxx

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I am assumming you've only sent a standard complaint leter,and have completed spread sheet,and have all your statements

You have 2 choices .complaint to FoS ...or sent of a LBA letter , then follow that up if they don't refund with Filing a claim via the Sheriff court, the information the Bank have provided is not strictly true as the terms of the test case are excluding Scotland,

 

the link is here

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/bank-templates-library/92-3-letter-before-action.html

 

remember that it will be Sheriff Court and not a County Court in the wording,

If stuck just ask

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Hi there was on Martin Lewis website which led me here please help am having difficulty following this forum.I put in a complaint about bank charges through my local Clydesdale bank 8 weeks ago.They have just sent me a letter saying they are still reviewing my claim.I am now wondering if I should have gone through this process another way as I am sure my charges amount to more than £750 !! Please could somebody help me with the process and letters I should write sorry this is so long but am confused Thanks Louise

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Hi there was on Martin Lewis website which led me here please help am having difficulty following this forum.I put in a complaint about bank charges through my local Clydesdale bank 8 weeks ago.They have just sent me a letter saying they are still reviewing my claim.I am now wondering if I should have gone through this process another way as I am sure my charges amount to more than £750 !! Please could somebody help me with the process and letters I should write sorry this is so long but am confused Thanks Louise

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If after 8 weeks they havn't replied,or told you when you will receive a reply

You have two alternatives submit a complaint to the FoS ,but the better option would be to file a claim at the Sheriff court,It's not scarey,

first you need to list the charges on a spread sheet, then submit a LBA (letter before action)to the bank

 

You will find this link helpful

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/scotland/94302-updated-scottish-procedure.html

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There should be no problem as the 750 limit on small claims was lifted over a year ago, and the new limit for Small claims is £3000, and the previous Summary Cause limit went from £1500 to £5000.

So you are within the Small Claim bracket

You are within the 5 year time limit so you can go back 5 years from the date of you first complaint leter.

If you did have some beyond this time scale then with the FoS , you can go back 6 years.

 

Most if not all the stuff you need is here ,I have never found CAB very helpful, well intentioned to a point..........your local one may be better

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Hi greypusscats and welcome.

 

This site can be awkward to navigate until you get used to it, but once you get into it there's stacks of information, and stivis has given some good advice.

 

I suggest you a thread of your own in the Clydesdale, Yorkshire, Northern Bank forum, and read some of the threads in there too, including the stickies at the top of the forum there. We know the true amount of costs for each "transgression" .is well under £2 for Clydesdale so their charges are plain greedy IMO.

 

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Hi,

 

I haven't been able to access Consumer Action Group for a long time.

 

Recently I THINK I caught a snatch of news stating that the courts had ruled that cutomers cannot make claims against the banks' unfair charges. Is this correct and, if so, does it apply to Scotland as well as England?

 

Having been trudging through Local Council mire for years now, I am just about, thanks to Scott McDonald, to emerge (shouldn't speak so fast,) into a new life with a home fit for residence. That's a long distressing story into which I will not go right now.

 

This emergence should have meant that I would have the time, clarity of mind and the energy to pursue Lloyds TSB (Scotland,) plc and perhaps The Clydesdale plc Just my luck, if we are no longer able to chase and regain bank charges.

 

I would very much appreciate the expert advice of those on this site.

 

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2nd November 2006: 1st letter, requesting back statements, hand delivered to lloyds TSB: got receipt.

I have received the information on my accounts going back 6 (six) years but not going back to the begining of my hsitory with the bank, as I requested.

Think I'd best send a letter suggesting they send the lot and informing them that I have already paid the £10 for such information.

Mairi's awaiting my details so that she can help me work out the interest due on the charges taken.

 

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Recently I THINK I caught a snatch of news stating that the courts had ruled that cutomers cannot make claims against the banks' unfair charges. Is this correct and, if so, does it apply to Scotland as well as England?

 

the ruling generally applies both north and south of the border,note the word generally.......however new PoCs will emerge (it would be fair to say that all forums are working on this as a matter of urgency) ,based on the actual ruling as opposed to what the banks have interperated it to say
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Don't despair VS. There's more than one way to skin a cat, the fat lady hasn't sung yet, and Mike Dailly of the Govan Law Centre is flying the flag for Scotland. ;-)

 

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