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    • thread tidied. new thread for the court claim is here  
    • new thread created for this claimform please post here now for anything to do with it now . pop up on the bulk court website detailed on the claimform. [if it is not working return after the w/end or the next day if week time] . When you select ‘Register’, you will be taken to a screen titled ‘Sign in using Government Gateway’. Choose ‘Create sign in details’ to register for the first time. You will be asked to provide your name, email address, set a password and a memorable recovery word. You will be emailed your Government Gateway 12-digit User ID. You should make a note of your memorable word, or password as these are not included in the email.  then log in to the bulk court Website .  select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box. .  then using the details required from the claimform . defend all leave jurisdiction unticked  you DO NOT file a defence at this time [BUT you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 ] click thru to the end confirm and exit the website .. get a CCA Request running to the claimant . https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332502-cca-request-consumer-credit-act-1974-updated-january-2015/ .. Leave the £1 PO unsigned and uncrossed . get a CPR  31:14  request running to the solicitors [if one is not listed send to the claimant] ... https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332546-legal-cpr-3114-request-request-for-information-when-a-claim-has-been-issued/ . .use our other CPR letter if the claim is for an OD or Telecom Debt or Util debt]  https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332546-legal-cpr-3114-request-request-for-information-when-a-claim-has-been-issued/ on BOTH type your name ONLY Do Not sign anything .do not ever use or give an email . you DO NOT await the return of ANY paperwork  you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform [1 in the count] ..............  
    • Which Court have you received the claim from ? Northampton  Name of the Claimant ? lowell Solicitors : Overdales solicitors  How many defendant's  joint or self ? Self Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to.  13 may 2024 What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? 1. the claim is for the sum of £6163.61due by the defendant under an agreement regulated by the consumer credit act 1974 for hsbc uk bank plc. Account (16 digits) 2. The defendant failed to maintain contractual payments required by the agreement and a default notice was served under s 87(1)  of the consumer credit act 1974 which as not been compiled with. 3. The debt was legally assigned to the Claimant on 23/08/23, notice on which as been given to the defendant.  4. The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the county courts act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of issue of these proceedings in the sum of £117.53 the Claimant claims the sum of £6281.14. Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ?   Not to my knowledge. Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online but it was for a smaller amount they kept on increasing this with me asking Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. It was assigned to a debt collection agency  Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? yes  Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes I also made offers to pay original creditor a smaller amount but was not replied to Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? No Why did you cease payments? I was made redundant and got a less paid job I also spent some time on furlough during covid and spent some 3 months on ssp off work. What was the date of your last payment? May 2021 Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes at the time I communicated with all my creditor's that I was running out of funds to pay the original agreements once my redundancy money ran out that was when my accounts defaulted. I then wrote to all my creditor's with pro rata offers of payments but debt collectors took over the accounts.
    • Just an update for all. I received about a letter every other week, increasing in threat levels. Then I hadn't had one for a about two weeks, then Saturday received a carbon copy of the very first letter they sent me in February. Made me laugh, rinse and repeat. 
    • So, your response was not received by the SCP as you did not send it with a valid stamp. Therefore, from my two option in post #14, the first option is the only one available to you, but you do not have the option of asking to be sentenced at the fixed penalty level as the reason the SCP did not receive your response was down to you. Here's a reminder of what to do: Respond to the SJPN by pleading “Not Guilty” to both charges. In the “Reasons for pleading Not Guilty” box state that you are willing to plead guilty to the speeding charge providing, and only providing, the “Fail to Provide Driver's Details" (FtP) charge is dropped. This is a tried and tested method to deal with your problem and is almost always successful. Before the pandemic it was necessary to attend court to do this "deal" because it needs the agreement of the police prosecutor.. During the pandemic courts made every effort to have as few  people as possible attend and they began doing this deal under the "Single Justice" procedure without the defendant's attendance. Some courts have carried this procedure on whilst others have reverted to a personal attendance being necessary. If you are required to attend, your case will be taken out of the SJ procedure and you will be given a date for a hearing in the normal Magistrates' Court. If that is the way they do it in the area involved you will have to attend, see the prosecutor and offer your "deal" in person. 
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A week ago last Friday I sent a CCA request to my bank regarding a default I that has been sold to a DCA (had verbal confirmation of this from bank).

 

In this instance, I am trying to have the default removed rather than claiming ignorance to the debt, because I actually can claim ignorance to the default ever being posted.

 

Because the debt is an overdraft (I did not "default" in the traditional sense, simply had not paid anything in for a while - I never went over the agreed limit) and not a normal credit agreement there is some question about how much of my request they need to adhere.

 

However, all that aside, should I send a S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) request now to see where the extra £55 of charges have come from, or should I wait to see if they reply, and do I have the same rights if there is non-compliance as I do with a CCA. Also, considering the DCA situation, am I pursuing the correct people? To reiterate, I do not dispute the debt, and intend to pay the DCA - my mission here is to remove the default.

 

Thanks for any/all responses.

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As regards to the SAR - they have 40 days to comply with it and send you your information. After that you can complain to the IC, but they don't seem to be doing much about it. If they don't comply, threaten them with court action to force them to disclose your details.

 

Are you asking if you can have them remove the default even though it was on a current account? I would say yes, especially if said default was result of bank adding on charges to account which made it go overlimit. They still have to tell you whether debt has been sold, makes no difference what kind of account it is. That's your right under the DPA.

 

Have you sent off a request for the CCA to the collection agency?

A+L - £950 settled in full.

 

Bank of Scotland - MCOL filed 9 Jan for £1500

 

Bank of Scotland (for parents) - £5000 settled in full October 06

 

Bank of Scotland (mum's account) £1900 settled in full November 06

 

Intelligent Finance: DPA non compliance sent 26 Jan

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Are you asking if you can have them remove the default even though it was on a current account? I would say yes, especially if said default was result of bank adding on charges to account which made it go overlimit. They still have to tell you whether debt has been sold, makes no difference what kind of account it is. That's your right under the Data Protection Act.

 

I wasn't asking that specifically, but the information is appreciated all the same :). As far as I am aware the default was made because they allegedly contacted me to make a full payment to remove the overdraft (it was a student one). I did not go over my limit so there were no bank charges, or at least there should not be.

 

Have you sent off a request for the CCA to the collection agency?

 

No, I sent one to the bank. Finding out that the debt was sold to the DCA and sending the letter to the bank both happened around the same time so I sent the letter to the bank. I sent pretty much the first one here (it also asked for deed of assignation so that seems right) - Remove Default Notices on a Credit File - We show you how.

 

It is the bank who have added the default not the DCA so that is why I have written to the DCA. I do not think sending a CCA to the DCA would help as I am not disputing the debt. Once I get a response back and the matter is closed (however I fare) I will pay the DCA. The default is marked like the below (assuming the Satisfied is because the DCA bought it, and for a reduced rate):

 

Account type: Current Account

Special Instruction Indicator: Partial Settlement

Default Balance: £800

Overdraft Balance: Satisfied

Status History:

(brackets indicate most recent status) [8]

 

I wonder if I can find out how much it was sold for?

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I'm not sure about finding out how much it was sold for - although it would be verrrry interesting. According to another poster on another thread they only pay about 2 - 10% of the debt. Don't know if that's true or not!

A+L - £950 settled in full.

 

Bank of Scotland - MCOL filed 9 Jan for £1500

 

Bank of Scotland (for parents) - £5000 settled in full October 06

 

Bank of Scotland (mum's account) £1900 settled in full November 06

 

Intelligent Finance: DPA non compliance sent 26 Jan

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