Hx Parking/gladstones CCJ - Exceeded 1hrs Free - McDonald's Alma Leisure Park Chesterfield CCJ issued thanks to useless parking fines ltd ***Claim Dismissed***

[Digital_2012]

@FTMDave yes

[brassnecked]

Do you have proof it was at all or are Gladdy's being obtuse?

[Digital_2012]

@brassnecked not sure what you mean yes i have proof i sent email gladdys and hx Parking limited both and advised them that email no longer being used so communicate through postal mail only

[dx100uk]

You didnt get the email ignore it.

 

 

[brassnecked]

Sorry meant did you already send the WS they are griping about or was it already in the syetem so they should have it anyway?  They do likelto confuse and wind people up.

[Digital_2012]

@brassnecked no i have not sent the WS yet as @FTMDave advised i am waiting few more days then will send it by 2nd class post to gladdys

[FTMDave]

18 hours ago, dx100uk said:

You didnt get the email ignore it.

I was looking forward to seeing dx's opinion on this.

 

I bet it was Gladdys trying to catch you out by trying to get you to reply to an e-mail after you said not to use e-mail.

 

I'm 99.9999% sure they won't even mention the matter in their WS but if they do you can easily bat it off.

 

I see the WS deadline is 29 June.  If you haven't received Gladdy's WS by say Thursday or Friday next week then please come back here and we can assess what to do.

[Digital_2012]

@FTMDave okay and when shall i send my WS to gladdys? On the safe side shall i send my defense with WS to gladdys by 1st or 2nd class or shall i completely ignore what they have asked me in email. Thanks

[brassnecked]

You don't need to send it yet Gladdys are hoping you send yours so they can construct some bent truth to rebut it.

[FTMDave]

dx was spot on -

21 hours ago, dx100uk said:

You didnt get the email ignore it.

If by some freak they moan about the lack of defence in their WS we can rebut it.

 

Come back on Thursday - or earlier if Gladdys get their WS to you before.

[Digital_2012]

Okay guys i will wait till 24th then will get back to you. Xx

[Digital_2012]

Hi guys 

 

Nothing has been received from fleecers i feel that they are reading this thread maybe its my illusion anyways so what's next time is ticking and only few days left to submit the ws.

 

 

Edited June 23, 2022 by Digital_2012

[Digital_2012]

@FTMDave as you advised sending WS to fleecers by 2nd class post, so along with WS do i have to attach exhibits as well to gladdys?

[FTMDave]

OK, so if there are no further developments, send Gladdy's theirs on Tuesday 28 June and get a free Certificate of Posting from the post office (yes, I know I said 2nd class before, but best not to tempt fate for a few pence). 

 

The same day e-mail the court theirs, make sure to request a receipt and put the claim number and the names of the parties in the subject box.

 

Yes, you have to include exhibits with both.

 

[Digital_2012]

@FTMDave okay i can send gladdys by 1st class post no issue here also shall i attach defence as well ? I know i been told that ignore the email but if in case if i receive their same request by postal mail in upcoming days before 29th June

[FTMDave]

It might be prudent to send the defence but hang on, there really is no rush, there are still a few days and we need to wait till the last moment to see if Gladdy's WS turns up.

 

I've just written DIGITAL2012 on Monday 27 on my calendar to remind me, so you won't be forgotten about!

[Digital_2012]

@FTMDave thank you very much i am bit relieved so not rushing anymore. Just need to get the print outs of WS and exhibits again i will wait till Monday night if we received gladdy ws then we can adjust ours.

[Digital_2012]

@FTMDave Nothing received today as well so basically they are waiting till end date as well

[FTMDave]

Maybe, or they might be about to bottle it.  That happens quite frequently.  Best to prepare for the worst though.

 

There is a nice little tradition on the CAG PPC forum, started by Alaska101, of using the fleecers' nasty little cons against them.

 

I would therefore suggest a covering letter with your WS to Gladdys.

 

 

Dear Will & John,

 

Re: claim number XXXXX, your client HX Parking

 

I enclose my Witness Statement for the upcoming hearing.

 

Yesterday, while clearing out old e-mail addresses, I found an e-mail from you requesting a copy of my defence in this matter, despite the fact that you were specifically told on XXXXX not to use e-mail.  I have no doubt that (a) you already possess a copy of the defence and (b) your mail was an attempt to mislead the court into thinking I was withholding evidence.  I therefore also enclose a copy of the defence you already have.

 

I have also mentioned your shenanigans in my Witness Statement.

 

Yours,

 

XXXXX

 

 

Then in your WS, just before your Statement of Truth, add

 

 

7.7  I have discovered that the Claimant's solicitors have sent e-mails to an old e-mail address of mine that I never use now, requesting copies of important case documents - despite the fact they have specifically been informed not to use e-mail (exhibit XXXXX).  This is either incompetence or a deliberate attempt to mislead the court into thinking I have been withholding evidence.  In any case the Claimant's solicitors have been sent the evidence in question by Royal Mail and I have obtained proof of postage.

 

7.8  At the time of writing I have not received a Witness Statement from the Claimant or their solicitors.

 

 

If none of the regulars object this evening, then tomorrow:

   - send Gladdys the covering letter, WS and defence, remember to include this new exhibit of your communication to them not to use e-mail, get a free Certificate of Posting from the post office;

   - e-mail the court the WS, remember to include this new exhibit of your communication to Gladdys not to use e-mail, put the claim number and the names of the two parties in the subject line, request a receipt of delivery.

 

 

[brassnecked]

Looks like a decent set of belt and braces  to put them on the back foot if they do try shenanigans.

 

[Digital_2012]

@FTMDave @brassneckedok thanks i am preparing all the stuff and will send the by 1st class post and obtain the proof of postage as well 

[Digital_2012]

Hi guys,

 

Post man been here no letter from gladdys even today. I have posted the documents with covering letter sent it by 1st class post obtained proof of posting. 

 

Now shall i send email to the court as well. Thanks 

[FTMDave]

Yep, get the court's off too.

 

Gladdys are playing a dangerous game.

[Digital_2012]

@FTMDave okay i have sent the WS to the court as well

[Digital_2012]

3 minutes ago, FTMDave said:

Yep, get the court's off too.

 

Gladdys are playing a dangerous game.

When you say they are playing dangerous game what does that means you mean they are taking a risk or they just lost it