Boris Johnson, former Prime Minister

[theoldrouge]

12 hours ago, brassnecked said:

WEstminster as a whole is now an Augean Stables that needs cleansing.

Has been for years now

Nothing ever changes 

People soon lose interest and move on 

As for your jailbird list

I would have Tony B Liar at the top any day 

[theoldrouge]

Funny how no one mentions that it was the policies of B Liar  ,Bush and the Sainted Obama that’s at the root cause of the current migration troubles 

Johnson was elected to control immigration and the red wall seats will expect nothing less 

[theoldrouge]

Negative - Hate immigrants/foreigners

- which continues unabated with Patel being the front monster  ... 

 

 

But all is not well in your (EU)topia

What happens when the posturing Napoleon , who is currently threatening all and sundry in a vain attempt to appear hard right, is,as seems likely, deposed. by

Monsieur Eric who makes Pritti look like a soft lefty 

Does this lead to France being made to sit on the EU naughty step to be endlessly bullied like Poland and Hungary?

[theoldrouge]

The current Mrs Johnson and her barmy ideas are the root cause of  many of the useful idiots problems 

[theoldrouge]

Excellent article from Professor John Keiger

 

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/france-has-the-most-to-lose-from-britain-s-turn-away-from-europe

 

[theoldrouge]

At some stage Nato are going to have to directly confront Putin

By not doing you are simply kicking the can down the road

Problem is we have a useless gutless PM (Churchill he is not)

And the USA has an equally incompetent President who lets not forget even left the tribesmen 

a parting gift of $80 billion of American military hardware when he ran away from Afghanistan

[theoldrouge]

Yes agree 

We too are going to have to rethink urgently the last 30 years of reduced military spending 

It was all supposed to be about cyber wars 

Did I read somewhere we now only have around  20000 infantry?

[theoldrouge]

22 hours ago, honeybee13 said:

A lot of people are baffled, me included. How can a 'work interview' go on with Abba blaring out? I don't believe that one.

I find it always increases my productivity with Abba blaring out 

[theoldrouge]

whatever, at the next GE only one thing will matter, the economy and how people are affected
Now if Rishi  bungs em enough who can say 

[theoldrouge]

6 hours ago, brassnecked said:

He is incorrigible but then none of his Cabinet are any better

 

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absolutely agree , he could also be describing Bidens America

But  for just a glimpse of the alternative one only has to look in horror at at Wales

[theoldrouge]

23 hours ago, honeybee13 said:

Do you think people will forget by the next election what they went through with being unable to see family and friends or not being able to be with people who were dying or attend their funerals, while No10 partied, TOR?

by and large the majority who were not affected yes

[theoldrouge]

Be great to see imperial measures again, I would love to see garages being made to price petrol and diesel in gallons instead of litres 

[theoldrouge]

yes, I would love to go back to those days, yards , feet and inches , pounds and ounces, everything I learnt and understood. Make people think twice if they saw around £10 per gallon 

[theoldrouge]

On 03/06/2022 at 06:46, honeybee13 said:

Here's the boss of Asda on the imperial measurements idea. Is this another dead cat distraction?

 

‘Complete nonsense’: Asda boss mocks post-Brexit plan to return to imperial measures | UK news | The Guardian

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Tory peer Lord Rose criticises ‘backwards’ proposal as business department launches 12-week consultation

 

to be fair, this,of course, from an arch remainer, and a frequent contributor to project fear

[theoldrouge]

good grief where on earth do you shop Harrods? milk is only £1.40 at our local Waitrose 

Stuart Rose in his own words..."it was project fear and it didn't work
 

Rose said he would have pursued a different campaign strategy. “I think the message should have been a softer one. I think it should have been ‘hold on a second, let’s look at history, let’s look at the wonderful benefits we get'.”But he believes that if there was a re-run of the referendum today that Vote Leave would still win.
 

[theoldrouge]

20 hours ago, tobyjugg2 said:

large is 6 pints (LOL)

(for the Brexit ministers to keep them clueless eh)

 

Waitrose don't seem to do em - asda aldi tesco morrisons all do

 

eg

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/255986260

 

Good to see you following in the traditions of the metric martyrs TJ, Nigel would be proud of you 

Now for discussion the views of the people of Redcar today, as told to the BBC......

 

 

Redcar, in North Yorkshire, is a constituency which after years of voting Labour, backed the Tories at the last general election. 

And it’s one of those places people will look at and wonder if the behaviour of Boris Johnson will see allegiances switch again. 

Don’t bet on it. Having spent a morning talking to voters, there were more people supportive of the prime minister than critical of him. 

There were certainly some people still angry about Partygate, and it will have lost the Conservatives votes.

But enough for them to lose a seat like this? Only an election will answer that question - but there are plenty of people in this town, far from Westminster, who think Tory MPs should back their leader tonight.

 

[theoldrouge]

seems to me what might happen , is everything goes quiet until after the two by election likely defeats
then either the "men in grey suits" give Johnson a tap on the shoulder (which he would likely ignore anyway)
or we have a Thatcher moment when the cabinet troop in one by one and tell him his time is up (though he'd probably sack the lot and carry on anyway )

[theoldrouge]

Absolutely UB, Rishi  has already started, expect another handout next year Joe Biden style (though its not done him much good so far)
But I still think if he throws enough  money at people the Tories will be the largest party at the next GE , regardless of By election results

[theoldrouge]

Quite likely, discontent always rears its head during periods of high inflation
especially with fuel heading towards £2 per litre (sorry for betraying the metric martyrs on this occasion)

[theoldrouge]

On 15/07/2022 at 06:31, unclebulgaria67 said:

Farmers need to work harder to recruit people from towns and cities. And before they look for workers they need to build accommodation and arrange transport etc.  I have talked to quite a few people living in towns who want to work on farms, but they cannot get to rural locations. Most want to return to family homes at the end of each day, so would also need transport back. And for those willing to stay on farms they would need decent accommodation.

 

And economically rate of pay needs to be more than what they could earn in say local warehouses etc.

The last thing farmers want is people from towns and cities with some sort of rural fantasy 

Farms are highly skilled dangerous environments 

I would not be letting an unskilled townie anywhere near today’s machinery 

[theoldrouge]

For me Kemi every time 

She would wipe the floor with the boring Starmer

[theoldrouge]

3 hours ago, honeybee13 said:

 

Fruit and veg pickers don't operate machinery though, do they?

You would be surprised at how little is harvested by hand except on very small holdings nowadays 

And such as daffodil pickers can earn £1600 per week but for a very short season So no one is going to employ them on a full time basis 

[theoldrouge]

3 hours ago, unclebulgaria67 said:

@theoldrouge

 

The people I have spoken to about farm jobs, are often experienced farmhands, who have gone to live in towns and cities due to availability of affordable housing. Often because they have met a partner, had a child and needing to have suitable housing.  They then make do with a Supermarket or Warehouse job, but want to go back to farming, but now live too far away to make it economical to go back.

 

Farmers and Government (local/national) need to help ensure there is sufficient supply of housing in rural areas.  This would also provide accomodation to unskilled seasonal workers.

Because the affordable housing has all been bought by people escaping from cities  who then expect the countryside to be turned into some kind of mud free /smell free Disneyland 

[theoldrouge]

50 minutes ago, tobyjugg2 said:

 

Like Johnson?

 

Climate science denier who tries to label it all 'woke' isnt she, and a great supporter of (diminishing world destroying) fossil fuels (of all types including fracking and shale) isnt she?

She avoided all that well, and many in the popu party party would cheer her for it anyway.

 

She came over quite well in the debate, but looking into the detail is ominous.

She’s exceptionally bright and quick thinking 

Funny also on the betting exchanges with all that’s gone on, the Cons are long odds on to be the largest party at the next GE doesn’t say much for the dullard does it?

[theoldrouge]

5 minutes ago, honeybee13 said:

What solution would you suggest, TOR?

A rapid reduction in population growth