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    • Which Court have you received the claim from ? Civil National Business Centre If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form. (not the response page or AOS) Name of the Claimant :           PARKINGEYE LTD Claimants Solicitors: (if one is stated)   Date of issue – 22 April 2024   Date for AOS - 11 May 2024 Date to submit Defence - 24 May 2024 What is the claim for –  Claim for monies outstanding from the Defendant in relation to a Parking charge (reference *************) issued on 22/01/2024.  The signage clearly displayed throughout Welcome Break Leicester Forest East (North), Northbound, M1, Jct 21/21a, Leicester Forest, Leicester, LE3 3GB states that this is private land, managed by ParkingEye Ltd, and that it is subject to terms and conditions, including the payment of parking tariffs, by which those who park agree to be bound (the contract).  ParkingEye's ANPR system captured vehicle ******* entering and leaving the site on 16/01/2024, and parking without paying to park and parking tariffs apply after a free stay period.  Pursuant to Sch 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, notice has been given to the registered keeper, making them liable for the Parking Charge payable upon breach. What is the value of the claim? 100.00 ? Amount Claimed 125.00 court fees 35.00 legal rep fees 50.00  Total Amount 210.00 Have you moved since the issuance of the PCN? No Did you receive a letter of Claim With A reply Pack wanting I&E etc about 1mth before the claimform? Y dated 10 March 2024, no reply
    • Obviously I'm ignorant and don't know the local area - but to me the images show the front of the car entering, and the rear of the car exiting, both times. On a second point - do you have any proof of your being elsewhere during the two times they reckon you were three hours in the car park? BTW, I've just done a search and we have 81 G24 threads apart from yours.  This is a company that huffs & puffs but very rarely does court.  In fact of the 81 cases, in 79 they haven't done court In one court case sadly the Cagger didn't defend and lost by default. In the second case G24 issued a court claim ...and then wet themselves and discontinued the case once the Cagger defended.
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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
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VCS PCN Claimform - no stopping - spycar CCTV - Liverpool Airport "offence"


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If you rode a pedal cycle or an e bike with no numberplates up that road and stopped to read the sign, the spy car would follow and the operator try to get your details to give you a charge for stopping.  I phoned and asked VCS, and they confirmed that is what they would do even to a mobility scooter or a  broken down vehicle.  they would likely ticket any Roadside recovery vehicle that came to assist as well.

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  • AndyOrch changed the title to VCS PCN - no stopping - spycar CCTV - Liverpool Airport "offence"

Something like that yes, when you do get a LBA, one of ericsbrothers snotty letters is in order letting them know that you know they have no lawful reason to claim even a can of maggots for a non parking incident.

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Did you send an ericsbrother style snotty letter?  they might leave you alone until just before Christmas, then get a tame powerless DCA to start sending letters with some spurious charges added to increase the  "(NON) debt" To them its a psychological game, so they will ramp up their threats at the festive season hoping to frighten someone into compliance.  VCS are not honest brokers, and  have no Locus Standi to demand anything where Bye-laws are in force.

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" we may commence legal proceedings against you. ln
the event that County Court proceedings are issued,
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Another ThreatOgram not a letter Before Action/Claim

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He is even too toxic for the likes of Gladdys and BW Legal to handle. He is good at cutting his own throat, so get a snotty letter ready  for when he is silly again.

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Think it has to mention 30 days to be a LBA, but Simple Simon isn't someone who adheres to legal niceties, and makes it up as he goes along.

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A letter of claim has to be a particular format, as single sided sheet not sufficient.

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Yes otherwise you will go for a loan, a car, even change a phone contract and a shiny CCJ will be sitting in your credit files, default to your old address, as DX and HB have indicated.

 

It won't encourage them any more than it would by staying where you are, what it does do is give the fleecer's a quick route to a default CCJ, if you inform them you have moved in a letter, NOT email, keep a copy file creation date will be in the metadata, so a true record, get a  free proof of posting and scan that. 

 

If they are stupid and try the backdoor CCJ route they are in for a world of pain there, as they had the correct address to send Claimform, courts don't like that trick.  Would be a set aside for sure.

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No Court Papers are not redirected Royal Fail return to sender like Elvis's lost love.. They then go for a nice easy default.

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Looks OK but just wait for ther tram to give it a look, Less is More at this stage, too much now gives simon a lever to make things up.

 

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No that's more than enough, Less is More at this stage, its only a skeleton Defence needed real meat comes at Witness Statement stage if it gets that far.  Just hold fire until a couple of the other's looks in.

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If VCS don't respond to the court with the DQ, the claim will be struck out.

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Oh the you will get hammered for extra costs of £220, if you don't take our offer, Simon has been pulled up on that one a few times as he cannot ask for that in the Small Claims Track, costs are fixed.

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That extra costs letter has been his undoing before when it was presented to the court by defendant.

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