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ok well time to get those done soon

there are threads here with other DQ's in them

but I'm sure andyorch will help nearer the time.

 

 

it might pay you to get proof you paid this off

 

 

poss lee can help you confirm this if you follow the link I posted

and get the number to post here for him to know it this thread.

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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have you contacted lee yet

it might help you to prove you paid the debt off

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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you should have done that 2 months ago you poss would not be in this mess now if you

could have found out this debt is already paid off.

 

 

so you've done the wrt135 bit & are awaiting the ref number return from vf?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Yes

I just saw litlle point as I tried calling Vodafone and going into the shop previously.

Can you tell me how long it will be before I get a mediation date ?

I'm on holiday next week and close to calling and settling before this time ..just to get it out of my head .I have so much going on its not a huge sum compared to the stress it applies.

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You need to initiate the mediation...have you rang them ?

 

If you are going to settle why bother?

 

Is it really stressing you this much this small amount?

 

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Hi 46m,

 

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If you've received an automated reply with a reference number, please update the thread with this.

 

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