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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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There might be no laws dx, but would you lease something that could be damaged by little brats having a tantrum or could be simply nicked, with no re-course. Of course it needs insuring.

 

I think you two have been very rude to the bh rep, who has taken the time to explain how they do what they do.

 

Don't forget you are only getting one side of the story with regards to the incident, the actual bh people aren't here to defend themselves.

 

porky or CCMRob12 [previously banned from CAG]

 

you seem to use cag to pick holes in peoples advise and nothing else.

 

quite frankly, if that's all you are going to do we don't want you

 

simple choice PPIG

 

help or GO AWAY

 

we on the siteteam have had enough of your games.

 

comprendi?

 

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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There might be no laws dx, but would you lease something that could be damaged by little brats having a tantrum or could be simply nicked, with no re-course. Of course it needs insuring.

 

It's Hire Purchase not lease. That means it matters not if it gets damaged or stolen, the liability of payments are still with the buyer.

 

Also why would anyone not have home insurancelink3.gif?

 

Erm, they can't afford it !

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I have just got my SAR in the post from Brighthouse. What am I supposed to do next with all this information so I can start reclaiming late fees and Optional cover back?

 

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Within the account notes should be something that shows a breakdown of payments. There should also be a code sheet so that you can understand what each code relates to.

 

I suggest you go through the paperwork and make notes of what you don't understand and then search again for explanations. If none then BH should have supplied them and you will need to go back to them for these explanations.

If you are asked to deal with any matter via private message, PLEASE report it.

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so you've used the cisheet and put every osc/dlc charge in on its date

 

and do a sep one for the PENALTY late fees.?

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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so you've used the cisheet and put every osc/dlc charge in on its date

 

and do a sep one for the PENALTY late fees.?

 

dx

 

Honestly aint a clue what you mean lol. All I have in front of me is my SAR and in that shows when I made a payment and my OSC/DLC and late payment charges. Ive added them all up on a calculator, but what am I to do now? What is the cisheet?

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ah sri I thought you had the sheet

 

here we go

 

CISheet v101.xls

 

put there int rate [APR] in cell d 15

 

as above

 

one copy for PENATLY fees

 

one copy for OSC/DLC

 

you enter every occurrence on a new row

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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be back later

 

have a read of the threads in this bh forum

 

lots of info

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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nope

 

each occurrence of OSC

and DLC

 

only listed sep

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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if you wish us to check them

post them up via the go advanced button bottom right

then manage attachment button

 

but remember to remove per info.

 

theres a letter in this thread

which is worthy of a read

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Im still confused, Uve not really said what I am to do next?

 

I have noticed in alot of threads, there has been alot of people such as yourself saying get reclaiming and reclaim this and that, but once there ready to, no more info is given to the person to start reclaiming.

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Following the receipt of my SARlink3.gif data, I hereby require a refund of £2260.97. This is made up of unlawful Late Penalty Charges, mis-soldlink3.gif Optional Service Cover and Damage Liability Cover.

 

This is made up of (includes interest at the standard rate of 8%, see separate sheets for breakdown):

 

Damage Liability Cover: £1313.31

Optional Service Cover: £550.85

Late Penalty Charges: £396.81

Grand Total: £2260.97

 

The charges that have been applied to my accounts for late payments have been deemed to be unlawful, not representing the true cost to Brighthouse. Punitive penalty charges are unlawful. Losses for breach of contract must only reflect the actual loss, and not be a way of profiteering.

 

I wish to reclaim the Optional Service Cover as it was NOT pointed out that I was RENTING the items until they were paid for and Brighthouse were obliged to repair or replace with an equivalent item before the rental term expired, therefore I was not given information which enabled me to make an informed choice.

 

I also request a complete refund of ALL the Damage Liability Cover charges from all the accounts as again this was mis-sold as I was told it was not optional. There is NOTHING in LAW that states that Hire Purchase goods MUST be insured, I have researched the Hire Purchase Act 1964 and find nothing relating to insuring items, can you clarify which point relates to this being required? The FSA quote “a borrower should not be refused a loan if they choose not to buy an insurance policy”. I was told if I did not take the DLC I could not have the item.

 

Cheques should be made payable to [me], alternatively, the amount outstanding can be used to clear the remaining balances of my accounts (as per an early settlement figure, minus the future Damage Liability Cover), the remaining sent in a cheque payable to [me].

 

I enclose the details of the charges, Optional Service Cover and Damage Liability Cover and also the interest this accrues at the standard rate of 8%. I shall also require that the Damage Liability Cover be removed from all accounts forthwith.

 

Should you refuse the above request I shall pass all documents and details to the Financial Ombudsmanlink3.gif Service for investigation.

 

If I do not hear anything from you within 21 days I will presume you require no further information regarding my claim and will allow a further 21 days for your response.

 

from:

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?409002-BH-Penalty-Charges

 

link regarding charges are below my post

 

please remember this is a voluntary and a self help forum

though why the link did posy before i'm unsure.

 

keep us posted.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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if you wish us to check you spreadsheets

 

please attach them

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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yep they look fine

 

I've taken them down as you left your name on them

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Oh, Thanks mate. :) Im sending them off with the example letter you gave me in this topic. Obviously with me editing some parts.

 

But thanks :) Once these get sent off, and they get them.. Is that it? They wud send me what they owe, or will they try fight it?

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They never replied to me and I sent mine off (the letter above was the one I wrote) in January, guess what - not even a reply letter! Currently taking them to court, I have further evidence of misleading actions (see on the Bright House Harrassment thread) which I fully intend to give to the Court. I will also be pushing the fact they never bothered to get back to me, will be upping what they owe me now in terms of the interest accrued since January!

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I havent heard anything yet, they have until next wednesday to come up with some letter or a repayment what im claiming for. What am I do to (whats my next step) if they dont even get back to me.

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