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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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Hello all.

 

First i would like to say that i recently (today) got a letter from the tribunal for a failed decsion.

Of course this was a shock for me.

 

I currently have epilpesy and have fits and blackouts at least once a week and infact 3 since friday just gone.

I also have a pacemaker which helps cardular vasular disease.

 

I am a male and 30 years old.

 

Orginally i went to a "medial assesment" back in october last year, they scored me 6.

I was not happy because the examiner lied on the form saying i was able to move arms above my head , unzip my coat, open doors and she also said i had no physical signs of disabilty on my exo skeleton.

 

Of course, i was wearing a t shirt, didn't get asked to move or bend my arms, she opened all the doors and my condition is not something you see from looking at my..exo skeleton.

 

I wrote a 7 page piece for the original appeal explaining this aswell.

 

Now with my epilespy is very frequent, too frequent, and my pacemaker makes me fatigued and a slight loss in moving my left arm above my head.

 

Yet this ATOS examiner did not ask anything about any of this.

Edit: I also would like to say she didn't look at me hardly, she was glued to the computer and i feel she wasn't really qualified in my illness area, she just seemed like the lights were on and nobody was at home.

 

Appeal failed.

 

I took the appeal to tribunal with updated doctors records, hospital records, a covering letter from me and also how the doctor had wrote about my conditions.

 

Today it came back FAILED.

 

I can't understand why they think this would be acceptable.

I literally fall into a seziure every few days, i had my driving license revoked, i am unable to venture in public transport on my own, cannot lift above head and side effects of tablets are chronic insomnia.

I also have limited time on computers as it will cause headaches leading to fits, if i am not careful.

 

Has anyone had a similar issue, what do i do now?

I just feel like the original ATOS dr looked at me sitting in the chair, clicked her mouse and pressed some keys, and i was ok, apparently.

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If you are medically unfit for work then, I'm afraid, the only option is to hop back on the magic roundabout and do it all over again. You can make a fresh ESA claim provided it is over 6 months since you were originally notified that you had failed the ATOS assessment. You will need to provide (un)fit notes from your GP.

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Ok guys just seems like alot of messing around, maybe i shud just find a job, have a fit on the way to work or at work get severly injured and sue someone...seems to me that's what they want?

Joking aside, the system is broken, real people who are poorly being removed for false reasons.

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Ok guys just seems like alot of messing around, maybe i shud just find a job, have a fit on the way to work or at work get severly injured and sue someone...seems to me that's what they want?

Joking aside, the system is broken, real people who are poorly being removed for false reasons.

 

Yes, the system doesn't work.

 

OK, let me rephrase that - actually, it works perfectly. We tend to make the assumption that it's there to help the sick and disabled, but actually, that's not its function at all. It's there to reduce the number of benefit claimants, and it does a great job of that.

 

As advised, make a new claim if six months have passed since your Atos medical decision notice. Take care of yourself first - only then should you spend energy getting upset about the politics of this. And if you do have energy, join the campaigners.

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The 6 months don't apply if you're claiming for a new or worsened condition.

 

This is indeed true, but claimants should expect extra scrutiny in such cases.

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Thanks all.

 

I called the DWP today and spoke to a very helpful man, i felt human again instead of feeling i was being talked down too.

He explained alot and what i need to do, some of the information i already gathered from here aswell.

 

So i will be starting the "magic roundabout" as someone said as of today.

 

So round 2? haha.

 

I just wish the people who do the claims could feel what i do, be in my shoes for one day and see how they like seizures.

I know it's their job i don't hold personal issues with them, i just still think the system is not right for everyone.

 

But anyway, thanks all.

I will keep visiting to see other stories.

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You should also ask the Tribunal service, in writing, for a statement of reasons for their decision to see if they've made an error of law in their decision - in order to do this you will need to find an experienced benefit adviser who can look at what descriptors/exemptions/special circumstances they think you should have met according to the evidence given and then can look to see if the Tribunal actually considered everything.

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... I know it's their job i don't hold personal issues with them, i just still think the system is not right for everyone ...

Indeed. Most do seem to try to help as best they can. But it is a sort of 'one size fits all' system and you have to make the most of it.

Don't give up, just keep plodding on and you'll get there. It took me three consecutive ESA claims, two failed assessments and two failed Tribunals to become an 'overnight success' and go straight into the Support Group for the maximum length.

I can't thank the people on here enough for their support and kindness (you know who you are :grouphug: )

You have some supporting evidence, use it. And, where possible gather more. You can never have too much.

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I wonder if you could argue the following:

 

" claimant is suffering from some specific disease or bodily or mental disablement and, by reasons of such disease or disablement; there would be a substantial risk to themental or physical health of any person if the claimant were found not to have limited capability for work. However, this does notapply where the risk could be reduced by asignificant amount by - (a) reasonable adjustments being made inthe claimant’s workplace, or (b) the claimant taking medication to manage the claimant’s condition where such medication has been prescribed for the claimant by a registered medical practitioner treating the claimant.

 

That's exceptional circumstances.

 

Arguing on the grounds that you have seizures, which can be dangerous for you. (I don't know your situation; but mine used to make me vomit and I've hurt myself a few times) There are no adjustments that if you had one, your employer could make to make the work place safe for you.

 

Any person is you and /or anyone you work with.

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I wonder if you could argue the following:

 

" claimant is suffering from some specific disease or bodily or mental disablement and, by reasons of such disease or disablement; there would be a substantial risk to themental or physical health of any person if the claimant were found not to have limited capability for work. However, this does notapply where the risk could be reduced by asignificant amount by - (a) reasonable adjustments being made inthe claimant’s workplace, or (b) the claimant taking medication to manage the claimant’s condition where such medication has been prescribed for the claimant by a registered medical practitioner treating the claimant.

 

That's exceptional circumstances.

 

Arguing on the grounds that you have seizures, which can be dangerous for you. (I don't know your situation; but mine used to make me vomit and I've hurt myself a few times) There are no adjustments that if you had one, your employer could make to make the work place safe for you.

 

Any person is you and /or anyone you work with.

 

Could you not also argue that due to his uncontrolled epilepsy (there are many types) that he would be unsafe to travel to work without supervision you could also add that the operation or supervision of moving machine or electrical equipment unless under direct supervision would cause great danger to himself and others. I know someone who had petit mal epilepsy who argued successfully that he could not cook because he had turned on the gas and was found by his wife a few minutes later in a room that was filling with gas because he had a a petit mal.

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