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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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Dear sir / madam...

 

Thanks again for your help i'll get that letter sent off pronto in the morning... I will update when i hear something back.

 

If they do happen to get a Warrant of Execution as they threaten in there letter, i guess i would get a letter from the court prio to anything happening so i can make my next move?

 

Edit-: Also they is two addresses on the letter

 

P.O Box 587

BAGSHOT

GU195YU

 

At the top and

 

Registered Office:

Regal House,

High Street

Bagshot,Surrey

GU19 5AA

 

at the bottom.

 

Will it matter on which address i send this to?

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Ok looking through my previous correspondence again with Northumbrian Water when they first contacted me (15th August 2011) about the bill it says in bold....

 

We must advise you that we take this matter seriously and have selected your account to receive further recovery action.

 

This could involve your account being passed to a debt recovery specialist or issuing a County Court Claim with a minimum of £155.00 legal fees being added to your account. If a County Court Judgement is subsequently obtained, then this will seriously affect your ability to obtain credit in the future.

 

This letter was directly from NW i contacted them afterwards showing that i had left that address at the end of 2004 and left it at that after they agreed to it and lowered the amount owed and ofc the debt is 7 years old me known that it is statued barred left them to stew at it, but now Regal are trying to say that they already obtained a CCJ against me, is it normal for a Debt Recovery to spout lies like this?

 

Also to add the letter i was advised to send is in an envelope ready to be posted once the post office opens.

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enquiries@oft.gsi.gov.uk

 

You will get a standard response, but if Regal attempt to do this with others then they will follow it up...

 

I sent the letter off this morning and i am hoping i hear no more from Regal about this matter.

 

What shall i put in the email? Just basically what has gone on? And forward the response letter to them?

 

Again thank's for all your help.

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Yes explain where you are with them, the wording of the correspondence you have received and a little history of the debt.

 

Ok will get on with that tonight cheers for the help i'll update when/if i hear anything back normally seems to be around the 2 week mark with them.

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Well my letter is still showing up as being in the system.

 

Not sure if anyone knows but I sent it to the PO Box address i was just wondering does recorded delivery work for PO Box Addresses?

Should be okbut will be part of a bulk deliver, best to use theHO address not PO.

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Ok letter was received on there part on the 12/12/12, received a letter this morning dated 13/12/12 saying the following-:

 

Dear Sir,

 

We are in receipt of your recent complaint, either directly or otherwise, and we are sorry that you have felt in necessary to take this course of action.

 

It may be that the cause of your complaint is beyond our control, however in the event of there being an issue with our processes or training we will identify and address this matter.

 

We define a complaint as 'any expression of dissatisfaction involving an allegation of (a) actual or possible loss, (b) material distress or © material inconvenience, resulting from actions we have taken on behalf of our client and from, or on behalf of, and eligible complaint'.

 

Upon receipt of a complaint the details will be recorded on our database that is monitored for trends. If necessary we shall inform our client of the details of your complaint and the outcome.

 

If we can respond to your compliant immediately we shall do so. It may be that we need to carry out an investigation or obtain information from our client and we will write to you once this has been completed. We shall update you with our progress every 2 weeks.

 

We shall provide a Final Response within 8 weeks and will provide details of the escalation process if applicable. Once we have issued a Final Response we will not engage in ongoing communication regarding the same issues.

 

Yours faithfully,

 

Regal Credit Consultants Limited

 

Collections Department.

 

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I have noticed the letter head ink has changed and has been sent back to the start as each letter has changed at the bottom from collections to pre legal to legal then back to collections, also there is a new number next to my ref no beginning with a c (guessing this is a complaint number)

 

Anything in this letter that says they ain't got a clue?

 

Also i did ask them not to correspond any more with me in the previous letter.

 

Cheers x

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So my guessing is they are now going to contact the company and find out when is the debt from? And if they have a CCJ outstanding (Which i know they have not).

 

I can't really make heads or tails about the complaint as i am refusing to pay it as it is statued barred.

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If it was me in your situation I would send an email to several of the board of Directors at Northumbrian Water, they have a duty as to how their suppliers act. Send an email to [email protected] also include [email protected] and [email protected] . I have guessed at these email addresses but you will know if they are correct as they will bounce immediately back at you if they are wrong.

 

Dear Sir / Madam

 

I would like to make a formal complaint against your company with regards to the behaviour of one of your suppliers of 'services'. I understand that not only do you have to comply with certain guidelines but you will seemingly take joint responsibility for the conduct of one of your suppliers of services who have to abide by not only The Consumer Protection From Unfair Practices 2008 in line with the Office Of Fair Tradings Debt Collection guidelines, but also with their own code of conduct.

 

The company in question are Regal etc etc. who are attempting to frighten me into paying against a what they say is a county court claim that has already been made against me for an alleged debt that I am supposed to owe you from (year).

 

Firstly I have checked both my current address and my old address with the Trust Registry and have discovered that no such county court claim has been made. In any event it would seem that the alleged debt is likely to be statute barred.

 

I will continue to investigate, but if I discover that this company are attempting to state falsely that I already have a county court claim made against me when I do not, then I will take the matter further.

 

I trust this makes my position completely clear.

 

Yours faithfully

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Just a small update recived a letter this morning date 28th December 2012-:

 

Dear Sir,

 

As you will already be aware following our initial response, we are in reciept of your letter of complaint.

 

We write to advise that the details of your complaint are currently being investigated, and we will provide our final repsonse as soon as we can.

 

Yours Faithfully,

 

REGAL CREDIT CONSULTANTS LIMITED

 

Collections Department

 

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Did you email the contacts at NWL ?

 

I have not yet i will do it however after i have updated this post.

 

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

Recived a letter this morninf dated 3/1/13 saying.

 

Dear Mr, *****

 

We are in receipt of your recent complaint, the basis of which is that it is your opinion that "...the alleged debt if it were existent would be statue barred..."

 

We write to advise you as per our client's instruction, we have closed and handed your file back to them. Should they wish to continue to discuss this matter with you, you will hear from them shortly. However, any further correspondence with regards to this issue should be directed at them.

 

This is our Final Response. In event that the contents of this letter do not satisfy the issues you have raised, there is an escalation process available through the Financial Ombudsman within 6 months of receipt of this letter.

 

Yours sincerely,

for Regal Credit Consultants Limited

 

Victoria ******

 

(Hand Printed Signature)

 

Collections Researcher.

 

We would be grateful for your feedback as to how we have dealt with your complaint; this can be provided to us via the following web page:

 

http://www.regal-credit.co.uk/survey/

 

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Guessing they had no leg to stand on? And either NWL or Regal were telling a bunch of lies about a CCJ.

 

So what do you think will happen now?

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