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    • Is the letter headed Letter of Claim/before Claim or similar? If not, it sounds like more of the threatogram chain. If you're not sure, post up an anonymised copy of the letter and we'll check. HB
    • So guess what, we have received a final demand letter for £100. It states if payment is not made by 11/06 they will have no option but to forward the case to their litigation dept with a view to commence County Court Proceedings. So just wondering if anyone has any advice. Do we ignore this? or do we need to take action? Thanks 
    • hi dx, thanks for helping just re-reading everything this morning and I must have missed this one from uncle in his thread "What you should not do, is not contact the Banks and simply default on payments. "  are you in disagreement with this based on your last sentence?
    • Thanks for the reply and clarification, that might just explain why in my case contact has pretty much ceased. Though with such companies it doesn't mean they won't ever threaten to return to court as a tool to force one's hand if they feel they are not self informed on their chances etc.  But concerning how last year they tried to use the CCJ to get a charging order and the court granted an intirum order on our mortgage using the CCJ that would have been a good 2-3 months beyond the 6 years, should the court not have checked the age of the CCJ in the first case or would they always grant an interim order simply off the back of a CCJ being produced without even checking the age of it?.  Had I not defended that action at the time they may well have got a default using a CCJ older than 6 years which could be a concern going forwards. At the time when I contacted the court to question the paperwork for a final order application the clerk suggested people don't get informed when companies apply for interim charging orders, they are automatic if a claimant has a CCJ and people only get contacted once a date for a final order application goes through. kind of begs the question if such companies can continue a seemingly backdoor method to attempt default action if un-defended if the initial application doesn't need to check the age of a CCJ?.
    • Hello!  Wondering if someone can help with this.  I suspect not but worth a go.  I appreciate the "contract is with the seller" line, which is what Evri has fed me but wanted to see if someone with experience in these things could suggest anything else I could do here.  I appreciate there are many topics about lost parcels - My parcels weren't lost, until the driver walked up to my door with them and then decided to make them lost/stolen... I'll summarise what has happened.  Wednesday of last week - Evri delivery driver stole / walked off with 3 of my parcels.  -  Arrived outside my properly, took photos (3 separate photos as its 3 separate deliveries) of the tops of the parcels (pointlessly zoomed in on just the labels, couldn't see anything else, other than a small piece of the pavement and a little weed, which doubly confirms it was outside my door as I can see the same plant), marked the order as delivered and walked off with them.  He's marked on the Evri GPS marked that he was outside.   -  3 different deliveries, from the same company (same boxes etc.), but 3 separate tracking numbers. -  Went through the Evri bot which opened a case on each tracking number.  I then phoned them and left a voicemail explaining what had happened. -  24 hours later had a canned response asking me if the packages had turned up and to check around etc..  I responded explaining again what happened and that they've definitely been taken. -  4 days later,  this morning, I get a response telling me to ask the merchant to refund me. I've responded to this message with a long email, repeating what I said, that I believe the driver has stolen these packages and that he took those suspicious top down shots of the packages, marked them as delivered without ringing or knocking etc.  I've said that I expect them to investigate further, but I gather they won't. In my several messages to them initially and later, I told them I don't care about a refund and wanted the parcels.  They contain some sentimental stuff, nothing of high monetary value, hence me going to this trouble.  I only paid £25 for the contents. I did contact the merchant when this first happened and they asked me to wait a few days.  They ended up refunding me despite me asking them not to and that I wanted them to escalate it with Evri because this appears to be a case of theft.  They didn't seem bothered - Refunded me and told me to go back to Evri and escalate it with them? So - Is there any way to compel Evri to conduct a proper investigation with this driver?  Search for my parcels? I have quite a lot of deliveries handled by Evri (not out of choice) - They used to have a fantastic chap and I rarely had any issues.  He has been replaced by a new guy and I believe the route is handled by this same guy who I believe has taken my packages.  Naturally, I fear this is going to happen again in the future if no investigation occurs. Appreciate any assistance - Thanks for reading. Al.  
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I have had a quick look around here but I cannot find the info I am after. I have had a letter with a £65.50 fine after travelling with the wrong ticket. My mistake entirely, I got mixed up with another similar sounding station, when the error was pointed out I offered to pay the extra 50p but this fell on deaf ears. I want to pay the fine to avoid court action but I need to pay in instalments as I do not have £65.50 as I am a student and have no money now it is the summer. my query is does someone have a template of a letter for this kind of situation? I have come to write to them and have no idea what to put!

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The letter is as follows:

 

Dear xxx,

It has been reported that on Wednesday 11th July 2012 you travelled from xxx to xxx by train without a valid ticket.

 

This is an offence in law. being contrary to section 5(3)a of the Regulations of Railways Acts of 1889, and or Railway Byelaws and we are now preparing the case for court. If convicted of the offence, you could be ordered to pay a fine of up to £1000 and/ or be sentenced to 3 months imprisonment. The Magistrates' court also has the power to order you to pay our costs of bringing the prosecution together with compensation for any outstanding fare.

 

I have reviewed your case and I am, on this occasion, prepared to offer a settlement of this matter upon payment of £65.50 which equates to the outstanding fare owed of £0.50, plus a contribution of £65 towards costs incurred to date. This offer is made without prejudice.

 

Payment should be sent to this office within 10 days, and may be by cheque or postal order. Cheques should be made payable to xxx and crossed account payee. Do not send cash. Please quote the reference number at the top of the letter when sending payment. Should you wish to pay by debit or credit card please call the number at the top of the letter.

 

If you pay this sum by the due date then xxx will give an undertaking not to prosecute you in this instance. Should you fail to respond to this letter within 10 days you may be served with a summons without further notice from ourselves, requesting you to attend court to answer the charge(s). The costs incurred should this happen will increase. If you do not admit the offence, then you will have the opportunity to plead not guilty and ask the magistrate to try the case.

 

Yours Sincerely

xxx

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I wouldn't push it too much asking for installments. How does the TOC know you are going to maintain them?

 

Out of interest, is this Merseyrail?

 

I might get a bit of a flaming here, but you would be better borrowing the money, is there nothing you can pawn etc?

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If it is that bad and devastating for your future then you need to consider some of the more extreme alternatives like a PayDayLoan, (although these are horrendous, so only borrow exactly what you need and pay it back ASAP). Not sure if there's such thing as a "best" one.

 

You could ask your bank to extend your overdraft or sell your phone to CEX etc...

 

Is it Merseyrail? If so let me know ASAP.

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Hello again.

 

Please don't take out a payday loan unless it's really really necessary. There are threads and threads here about how bad they can be.

 

But I have read here before that rail companies don't take instalments. Can anyone else help you with the money?

 

Hopefully someone here will take pity on you and tell you what you could write, but you may need to think about how to pay the fine a bit more.

 

HB

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Unfortunately an opportunity to resolve by such a payment to avoid Court action is exactly that.

 

The TOC are tied in to rules that set time constraints for prosecution and they have no obligation to, nor interest in, setting up costly to administer, licenced collection schemes.

 

It is something that many people find embarassing and difficult to deal with, but if possible I would seriously consider approaching your family and explaining your predicament.

 

Maybe they will be able to help before the issue of a summons becomes a pressing reality that you have to deal with instead.

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Judging by the format of the letter it's either FGW or TPE?

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