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    • I doubt HMCTS holds any data on whether arrests by AEAs required police assistance.  They couldn't or wouldn't provide data on how many of warrants issued were successfully executed - just the number issued!  In my experience, arrest warrants whether with or without bail are [surprisingly] carried out with little or no fuss.  I think it's about how you treat people - a little respect and courtesy goes a long way. If you treat people badly they will react the same way. Occasions when police are called to assist are not common and, having undertaken or managed many thousands of these over the years, I can only recall a handful of occasions when police assistance was necessary. On one occasion, many years ago, I arrested and transported a man from Hampshire to Bristol prison on a committal warrant. It was just me and he was no problem. I didn't know the Bristol area (pre Sat Nav) and he was kind enough to provide directions - seems he knew the prison.  One young chap on another committal warrant jumped out of his back window and I had to chase him across several garden fences.  When he gave up (we were both knackered) I agreed to drive by his girlfriend's house to say farewell for a while.  I gave them a few moments and he was fine. The most difficult are breach warrants but mainly in locating the defendant as they don't want to go back to prison - can't blame them.  These were always dealt with by the police until the Access to Justice Act transferred responsibility from them to the magistrates' courts. The fact was the police did not actively pursue them and generally only executed them when they arrested someone for something else and found they had a breach warrant outstanding.  Hence the transfer of responsibility.
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got no paperwork from the bailiff think the thing that was signed was something to do with the car because he asked me if id supply the log book and keys and i said no

 

He has definitely SEIZED the car, and would want the logbook and keys as it would fetch a couple of quid more at auction if they have them. you need to post up exactly what is on the paper your wife signed. He DID leave a copy? He is legally obliged to do so, and it should list what the debt is what fees he has charged, and details of the car. If not he is very naughty indeed, as he must leave a Notice Of Seizure with you.

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so when ne phones tomorrow what should i say to him ? he's left no paperwork with any details regarding how much is owed

 

Phone the council first thing ask them what is owing as per my first post, hide the car, we can take it from there when we know what liability orders they have and how much is owed according to the council, as the bailiffs figures will be completely different if not a complete tissue of lies.

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so when ne phones tomorrow what should i say to him ? he's left no paperwork with any details regarding how much is owed

 

so hes not left any levy with u jeff i think this bailiff has acted wrong dont know what u other guys think about this but he should have left some paperwork with fees and the levy did he talk about a wpo walk in possession order sorry if i didnt spell that right

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so hes not left any levy with u jeff i think this bailiff has acted wrong dont know what u other guys think about this but he should have left some paperwork with fees and the levy did he talk about a wpo walk in possession order sorry if i didnt spell that right

 

also jeff the council would have had to send u a court summons first aswell for the council tax bill

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ha said nothing about a walk in posession order as he knew he wasnt getting in with or without the police and i have to say the police were on our side as the police woman told him he was making a pratt out of himself when he realised the car was worthless

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ha said nothing about a walk in posession order as he knew he wasnt getting in with or without the police and i have to say the police were on our side as the police woman told him he was making a pratt out of himself when he realised the car was worthless

 

have u had any letters from the council jeff about the debt b4 the bailiff come

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Wonder if they have passed an account where there is no Lo to a bailiff by mistake? Jeffdub, were you paying your council tax, and were you aware of any arrears?

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Wonder if they have passed an account where there is no Lo to a bailiff by mistake? Jeffdub, were you paying your council tax, and were you aware of any arrears?

 

brass i am thinking the same

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i had an attachment of earnings letter sent to me last year but my workplace never recieved anything and the council tax i was paying wasnt comong off the current bill but off an arrears one which i didnt realise

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i had an attachment of earnings letter sent to me last year but my workplace never recieved anything and the council tax i was paying wasnt comong off the current bill but off an arrears one which i didnt realise

 

so u have not had any summonds for court on this then

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i had an attachment of earnings letter sent to me last year but my workplace never recieved anything and the council tax i was paying wasnt comong off the current bill but off an arrears one which i didnt realise

 

This is why you need to do what I told you first thing without fail

"Contact the council and ask them

How many Liability Orders they hold for you

How much are they for

When were they obtained

When were they passed to bailiffslink3.gif for enforcement."

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my wifes ringing them first thing in the morning to find out the details so do you suggest i tell the bailliff im not paying anything till i get the details from the council ?

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my wifes ringing them first thing in the morning to find out the details so do you suggest i tell the bailliff im not paying anything till i get the details from the council ?

 

yes do not pay anything untill u have full details hun like when they took u to cook for this coz they would have had to of taken u to court first b4 they sent it to the bailiffs and also why have u had no letters from the council about this but jeff make sure u hide that car in a garage would be great but if not a few roads down hide it somewhere good mate i hate ross and roberts they have gave me hell i will do anything i can to help u hun

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my wifes ringing them first thing in the morning to find out the details so do you suggest i tell the bailliff im not paying anything till i get the details from the council ?

 

Tell the bailiff that you are confirming details with the council, try to put him off. have you hidden the car? he could well come back around 5:30 in the morning and clamp it

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hes been told to ring me at 8.30 so i'll tell him im not paying

 

make sure u hide the car as council dont open in some places till 9am hun please make sure u hide that car well just say to him u have not had a summons that it was going to court no letters from the council so u need to get details of when u was taken to court if thats if u was and how much u owe and if im right i am sure they cant take ure car if u use it for work

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make sure u hide the car as council dont open in some places till 9am hun please make sure u hide that car well just say to him u have not had a summons that it was going to court no letters from the council so u need to get details of when u was taken to court if thats if u was and how much u owe and if im right i am sure they cant take ure car if u use it for work

 

he will add more charges on tomorrow hun if he comes and ure bill will go up by about 700ish i am having one bailiff done at the moment as they wouldnt let me out the kitchen in my own home to go to the toilet my little girl was in the front room with my baby shes was crying my 13 year old was crying it was hell what they do

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i had a heart attack 5 weeks ago and dont need this grief

 

omg jeff u need to tell the council this i have a brain condition thats why they are recalling it back from ross and roberts please please tell the council tomorrow of this u are not aloud stress and pressure like myself og jeff u poor thing

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You are probably vuklnerable under the Bational Guidelines. them, tell the council about the heart attack and provide evidence, maybe a hospital letter r a note from the doctor, that you are a recovering heart patient. they should take it back from the bailiff

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