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    • in order for us to help you we require the following information:- Which Court have you received the claim from ? Canterbury If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form. ( Name of the Claimant ? Moneybarn No 1   How many defendant's  joint or self ? One Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to. 29/05/24 Acknowledged by 14/06/24  Defence by 29/06/24  Particulars of Claim PARTICULARS OF CLAIM   1.  By a Conditional Sale Agreement in writing made on 25th August 2022. Between the Claimant and Defendant, the Claimant let to the Defendant on Conditional Sale. A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack  Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached   2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00.  The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month.   3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement,   Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us.   Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement   9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate   4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:-   a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement number 756050. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     Thw total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by Firrst class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges ]= 5.  A the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or  alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage.   Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs.   Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024   What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
    • Commentary June 2024 WWW.ELECTORALCALCULUS.CO.UK Interesting article about just how bad it could be for the Tories.  Also Tories could be hoping on Reform not having candidates in many seats, as they were not ready.  
    • Even a Piers Morgan is an improvement and a gutless Farage Piers Morgan calls for second Brexit referendum WWW.THELONDONECONOMIC.COM Piers Morgan and Nigel Farage have faced off over Brexit and a second referendum in a heated reunion on BBC Question Time.   “Why don’t we have another referendum about Brexit?” he questioned. “I seem to remember when 2016 came around we were told there was going to be control of our borders and it was going to be economically beneficial to this country. And eight years later we have lost complete control of our borders… and economically it seems to have been a wilful act of self-harm.”   ... Piers missed off : after all somebody said a 48/52 decision would be "unfinished business" by a long way - was that person just bul lying (again)  
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Hi everyone,

 

Just had sucessfull claim with A&L and going to look into my Lloyds TSB Credit card. does anyone have any tips I could use on this, or should I stick to the same procedures I followed for A&L??? I'm going to carry on reading over the next couple of weeks as I have to send a DPA as i have no statements. Any help would be appreciated.

A&L MCOL Filed 10.09.06

A&L Settled in full 21.09.06 £1567.35

 

Lloyds Credit Card MCOL Filed 30.01.07

MCOL Issued 31.01.07

MCOL Judgement started 21.02.07

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I'd imagine the best approach would be to stick to the tried & tested methods that you used in your claim against A&L. The best advice I can give is be prepared for their potential bullying tactics as attempts to put you off proceeding. If you check out the threads in the Successes sub-forum you will see how it tends to work with Lloyds. And if you check out current threads then you will see examples of their 'template' responses and tactics.

 

Good luck. Lucid :)

Mindzai & Lucid vs Lloyds TSB

*Won unconditionally with contractual interest (29.85% compounded)

Lucid's Account - £749.62 * Joint Account - £2019.64 * Mindzai's Account - £595.65

*All settled in full - 6/2/07

*Hearings - 7/2/07

*Prelims sent - 9/8/06

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hi again,

 

Still no news on my statements and they have not cashed my cheque yet. What I want to know is can I still claim the 'late charges' on my credit card statements (i have about a years worth but am waiting for the full lot) even though the OFT have reported on these credit card charges. What I am trying to say is, can still attempt to claim these charges back even though LLoyds may have now reduced this charge to £12ish??? Is there a different spreadsheet for calculating credit card charges other than the one I used for A&L bank charges? Any help would be much appreciated whilst I am waiting for statements etc.

 

cheers.

A&L MCOL Filed 10.09.06

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Lloyds Credit Card MCOL Filed 30.01.07

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Hi everyone,

 

LBA sent 28th November and had the usual sod off reply etc. Need some help now please on the following issues...

 

1. Can I use MCOL and can I use more or less the same wording i used for my claim for my current account?

 

2. Is there a special template for claiming late fees on credit cards when filing my MCOL?

 

3. Can anyone give advice at this stage that will help me as I would like to get this claim filed this week?

 

 

Thanks for your help.

A&L MCOL Filed 10.09.06

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Lloyds Credit Card MCOL Filed 30.01.07

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hi,

 

just need some advice on timscales as i have been a bit slow what with christmas etc etc (not really a good excuse) but anyway, prelim letter sent 9.11.06 and reply received 20.11.06, this stated that further communication has to be sent to lloyds by 15.01.07. LBA sent 28.11.06 and reply received 4.12.06 'thank you for your further letter dated 28th Nov, the contents of which have been duly noted. I am afraid that the banks position has not changed in this matter and for the avoidance of doubt we refer you to the contents of our letter dated 20th Nov.'

 

now, am i too late to do my MCOL? i have only just noticed this and am worried that they will have closed my file at LTSB. do i take it that they have given a deadline of 15th Jan? i am ready to file MCOL tomorrow so any help would be much appreciated.

 

thanks.

A&L MCOL Filed 10.09.06

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MCOL Judgement started 21.02.07

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Hi,

 

Thanks for that. Could somone just have a look at this please? i just dont want to get things wrong.

 

here is the text for my MCOL ;

 

Claimant has an account xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Defendant since before October 2000. Since 11/01/01 the Defendant debited charges in respect of purported breaches of contract. Defendant is aware of all details as a list of charges has already been supplied. Another copy will be sent. Claimant contends: (a) The charges exceed the Defendant's losses caused by the breaches; (b) The Term permitting the Defendant to levy such charges is unenforceable under the Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999, Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977 and at Common Law. Claimant claims: (a) return of the amounts debited of £xxx.00; (b) Interest per S.69 County Courts Act 1984 of 8% - £xxx.00 continuing at 8% until judgment or settlement at a daily rate of £0.12p; Alternatively, if the charges are a fee for a service, then they must be reasonable under S.15 of the Supply of Goods and Services Act 1982. Costs allowed by the Court.

One other question too.. the first charge applied takes me over 6 years by about 3 weeks (Charge applied on 11.01.01) so do i need to remove this and sent another schedule to Lloyds?

Your help is much appreciated. Thanks.

A&L MCOL Filed 10.09.06

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Hi,

 

Any suggestions for the above?

 

I am waiting to press the 'go' button but am a little unconfident re first charge being over 6 years ago...

A&L MCOL Filed 10.09.06

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MCOL Judgement started 21.02.07

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Can someone help please? Do i need to go back and do another LBA?

 

thanks.

A&L MCOL Filed 10.09.06

A&L Settled in full 21.09.06 £1567.35

 

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Hi,

 

No becuase you were within the limit when you began the process. Get your claim filed - the particulars look like the MCOL template to me so I'm sure the wording is all fine.

 

Lucid :)

Mindzai & Lucid vs Lloyds TSB

*Won unconditionally with contractual interest (29.85% compounded)

Lucid's Account - £749.62 * Joint Account - £2019.64 * Mindzai's Account - £595.65

*All settled in full - 6/2/07

*Hearings - 7/2/07

*Prelims sent - 9/8/06

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Thanks, a bit nervous..again.. (Done this once already!)

i dont want any chance of it being thrown out. I will now press the 'GO' button! Here goes...

A&L MCOL Filed 10.09.06

A&L Settled in full 21.09.06 £1567.35

 

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Don't be nervous. You haven't left it that long to file the claim - you certainly don't need to worry about your case being thrown out.

 

Lucid :)

Mindzai & Lucid vs Lloyds TSB

*Won unconditionally with contractual interest (29.85% compounded)

Lucid's Account - £749.62 * Joint Account - £2019.64 * Mindzai's Account - £595.65

*All settled in full - 6/2/07

*Hearings - 7/2/07

*Prelims sent - 9/8/06

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Thanks, feel much better now.

 

Got my claim filed and claim number etc. Do i need to pm someone with the details?

A&L MCOL Filed 10.09.06

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Well I have done my claim and it was issued on 31.01. Lloyds have until 19th February to reply. Lets see what happens...

If I dont hear anything from the court or Lloyds by say the 17th is there any action I should be taking? any advice is much appreciated at this stage.

 

thanks.

A&L MCOL Filed 10.09.06

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Hi

You did it by MCOL, didn't you? Just keep checking on there to see if they have acknowledged, if they don't there is a judgement button to press, but chances are they will acknowledge.

Barty:)

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http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/lloydstsb-successes/1774-barty-lloyds-tsb.html

 

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Thanks for that. ill keep track. Now do i need to sent a copy of my schedule with a letter to the Court in Northampton? What happens if they don't acknowledge the claim at all?

 

Thanks.

A&L MCOL Filed 10.09.06

A&L Settled in full 21.09.06 £1567.35

 

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MCOL Issued 31.01.07

MCOL Judgement started 21.02.07

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Hi

If you do the following:

Send 2 copies of your schedule of charges, clearly marked with your claim no. + a brief covering letter asking for them to be filed with your claim to:

The Court Manager,

Money Claim Online

Northampton County Court

21-27 St. Katharine's Street

Northampton

NN1 2LH

Dear Sir/Madam

(Your Name) –v- (Bank)

Claim No: ********

Date Issued: xx/xx/xx

Please find enclosed a schedule of penalty charges taken from me by the defendant, along with interest claimed at the annual rate of 8% pursuant to section 69 of the County Court Act. The interest in addition to the amount in charges equates to the total amount of my claim, namely £(AMOUNT).

I respectfully request that the enclosed schedule should be attached to the particulars of my claim.

Yours Faithfully

 

 

 

 

 

And send a similar letter to SC&M (the Solicitors) when your claim is acknowledged. If they don't acknowledge, let us know and we'll advise what to do this, but they more than likely will.

 

Barty:)

I WON!!!! :D :D :D

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/lloydstsb-successes/1774-barty-lloyds-tsb.html

 

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Thanks, i'll keep posting. I dont know if i could have got this far without all your help. its much appreciated.

 

Cheers.

A&L MCOL Filed 10.09.06

A&L Settled in full 21.09.06 £1567.35

 

Lloyds Credit Card MCOL Filed 30.01.07

MCOL Issued 31.01.07

MCOL Judgement started 21.02.07

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Hello again,

 

Friday tomorrow and Lloyds have until Monday to acknowledge my claim. i have just been on MCOL and it still reads as 'issued 31.01.07'. Can someone explain what will happen now if they dont acknowledge on Monday or should i make phone calls tomorrow to Lloyds etc? What is the best thing to do now to bring this to a speedy resolution? Any help is much appreciated.

thanks,

A&L MCOL Filed 10.09.06

A&L Settled in full 21.09.06 £1567.35

 

Lloyds Credit Card MCOL Filed 30.01.07

MCOL Issued 31.01.07

MCOL Judgement started 21.02.07

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Well tonight i have been on MCOL and the claim still reads as issued. I now need some quite urgent advice as what to do next...PLEASE...

Obviously LLoyds have not acknowledged and i dont know what happens now. also i have not checked any balances on my credit card. is it likely they would have paid the money into there as i have a nil balance and haven't used the card for over a year?

Any advice now is much appreciated. Ta.

A&L MCOL Filed 10.09.06

A&L Settled in full 21.09.06 £1567.35

 

Lloyds Credit Card MCOL Filed 30.01.07

MCOL Issued 31.01.07

MCOL Judgement started 21.02.07

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Do you know what happens if they have not heard anything at all? do i just apply for a judgement and how long does this take? What exactly happens? Sorry for all the questions....

A&L MCOL Filed 10.09.06

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