Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

    • I have looked at the car park and it is quite clearly marked that it is  pay to park  and advising that there are cameras installed so kind of difficult to dispute that. On the other hand it doesn't appear to state at the entrance what the charge is for breaching their rules. However they do have a load of writing in the two notices under the entrance sign which it would help if you could photograph legible copies of them. Also legible photos of the signs inside the car park as well as legible photos of the payment signs. I say legible because the wording of their signs is very important as to whether they have formed a contract with motorists. For example the entrance sign itself doe not offer a contract because it states the T&Cs are inside the car park. But the the two signs below may change that situation which is why we would like to see them. I have looked at their Notice to Keeper which is pretty close to what it should say apart from one item. Under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule 4 Section 9 [2]a] the PCN should specify the period of parking. It doesn't. It does show the ANPR times but that includes driving from the entrance to the parking spot and then from the parking place to the exit. I know that this is a small car park but the Act is quite clear that the parking period must be specified. That failure means that the keeper is no longer responsible for the charge, only the driver is now liable to pay. Should this ever go to Court , Judges do not accept that the driver and the keeper are the same person so ECP will have their work cut out deciding who was driving. As long as they do not know, it will be difficult for them to win in Court which is one reason why we advise not to appeal since the appeal can lead to them finding out at times that the driver  and the keeper were the same person. You will get loads of threats from ECP and their sixth rate debt collectors and solicitors. They will also keep quoting ever higher amounts owed. Do not worry, the maximum. they can charge is the amount on the sign. Anything over that is unlawful. You can safely ignore the drivel from the Drips but come back to us should you receive a Letter of Claim. That will be the Snotty letter time.
    • please stop using @username - sends unnecessary alerts to people. everyone that's posted on your thread inc you gets an automatic email alert when someone else posts.  
    • he Fraser group own Robin park in Wigan. The CEO's email  is  [email protected]
    • Yes, it was, but in practice we've found time after time that judges will not rule against PPCs solely on the lack of PP.  They should - but they don't.  We include illegal signage in WSs, but more as a tactic to show the PPC up as spvis rather than in the hope that the judge will act on that one point alone. But sue them for what?  They haven't really done much apart from sending you stupid letters. Breach of GDPR?  It could be argued they knew you had Supremacy of Contact but it's a a long shot. Trespass to your vehicle?  I know someone on the Parking Prankster blog did that but it's one case out of thousands. Surely best to defy them and put the onus on them to sue you.  Make them carry the risk.  And if they finally do - smash them. If you want, I suppose you could have a laugh at the MA's expense.  Tell them about the criminality they have endorsed and give them 24 hours to have your tickets cancelled and have the signs removed - otherwise you will contact the council to start enforcement for breach of planning permission.
    • Developing computer games can be wildly expensive so some hope that AI can cut the cost.View the full article
  • Recommended Topics

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like
  • Recommended Topics

Which Debt Collection Agency/s do Creation Finance Use?


Feebee_71
style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 4654 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

Hi there all,

 

Can anyone tell me which debt collection agencies are used by Creation Finance?

 

A little background - I bought a car with finance over 5 years and secondary agreement for work needed through Creation Finance.

 

Lost my job a few months ago and came to arrangements with my creditors for reduced payments every month.

 

Creation sent me an income/expenditure form and agreed to accept £10/month. First payment was made in July and next payment due next week.

 

Today received a letter dated 2nd August from Creation with default notice contained within it - not overly suprised as now 4 payments behind on usual schedule.

 

Tried to call them to make sure this is just 'normal' process and that they are still expecting next reduced payment next week and bloke on end of phone was incredibly rude saying they can't talk to me as they've 'sold the debt to a debt collection agency' he couldn't tell me when it was sold, who it was sold to or even discuss the letter I received this morning - he even went on to say that no-one would be able to speak to me on the phone as they no longer have control over the account!!

 

He also said that the DCA would automatically add £75 minimum to the account. He did say a letter was in the post from the DCA but didn't know when it was sent out!!

 

I was quite surprised they have taken this step as they only accepted the reduced payment amount in June and they set the first payment for July.

 

Mum says to go to CAB about it and get them to write a letter and get the charges removed - creation have added charges to the account but various people have said they will get some of the charges removed (though not all as can only remove one lot of charges!!) it looks as if there have been about £40/50 added already.

 

Who should I expect a letter from next? And what is the best course of action?

 

Feebee_71

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi there all,

 

Can anyone tell me which debt collection agencies are used by Creation Finance?

 

A little background - I bought a car with finance over 5 years and secondary agreement for work needed through Creation Finance.

 

Lost my job a few months ago and came to arrangements with my creditors for reduced payments every month.

 

Creation sent me an income/expenditure form and agreed to accept £10/month. First payment was made in July and next payment due next week.

 

Today received a letter dated 2nd August from Creation with default notice contained within it - not overly suprised as now 4 payments behind on usual schedule.

 

Tried to call them to make sure this is just 'normal' process and that they are still expecting next reduced payment next week and bloke on end of phone was incredibly rude saying they can't talk to me as they've 'sold the debt to a debt collection agency' he couldn't tell me when it was sold, who it was sold to or even discuss the letter I received this morning - he even went on to say that no-one would be able to speak to me on the phone as they no longer have control over the account!!

 

He also said that the DCA would automatically add £75 minimum to the account. He did say a letter was in the post from the DCA but didn't know when it was sent out!!

 

I was quite surprised they have taken this step as they only accepted the reduced payment amount in June and they set the first payment for July.

 

Mum says to go to CAB about it and get them to write a letter and get the charges removed - creation have added charges to the account but various people have said they will get some of the charges removed (though not all as can only remove one lot of charges!!) it looks as if there have been about £40/50 added already.

 

Who should I expect a letter from next? And what is the best course of action?

 

Feebee_71

You will get a letter from the DCA probably accompanied by an assignment

notice from the finance company, as to which DCA they use it could be

one of dozens.

Wait and see what the DCA is saying, not really any thing you can do

until then.

Any Letters I Draft are N0T approved by CAG and no personal liability is accepted.

Please Consider making a donation to keep this site running!

Nemo Mortalium Omnibus Horis Sapit: Animo et Fide:

Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks for the quick reply - I know sometimes some companies use specific DCA's which was why I asked.

 

Will have to sit by the door and wait for the letter to arrive!!

 

Well, they'll not get any more money than Creation have been told they can have as I don't have any more than that available - and could probably do with paying less!!

 

Feebee_71

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi, Feebee,

 

That's all you can do, they can't tell

you what to pay YOU ARE IN CONTROL

you know what you can afford, they don't.

 

Brig.

Any Letters I Draft are N0T approved by CAG and no personal liability is accepted.

Please Consider making a donation to keep this site running!

Nemo Mortalium Omnibus Horis Sapit: Animo et Fide:

Link to post
Share on other sites

 

Can anyone tell me which debt collection agencies are used by Creation Finance?

 

 

Think there's a few, Mackenzie Hall, Lowell,CSL, the list could be endless.

Any advice I give is honest and in good faith.:)

If in doubt, you should seek the opinion of a Qualified Professional.

If you can, please donate to this site.

Help keep it up and active, helping people like you.

If you no longer require help, please do what you can to help others

RIP: Rooster-UK - MARTIN3030 - cerberusalert

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...