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azza, Just because I am not giving you the response you would like to hear doesn't mean I'm wrong. You are more than welcome to ignore my (correct)interpretation of the law. You will find out the truth if you do decide to take it to court.

 

Sam, other than typing insults I will again ask. What qualifications in consumer law in particular used vehicle sales do you have?

 

I'll give you the answer you want to hear; NONE. However, both Conniff and Helio know that isn't actually true but I have wasted enough time and energy with you as it is. Take a look at the little green squares in my profile window, they indicate how many acknowledgements I've had off people who I have assisted so far. And no, each square does not represent 1 acknowledgement. I'm sure though you have heard of a FCATS certificate.

 

I have nothing to prove to you. I am sorry however, that the OP has possibly been confused and miss-lead by the arguments that have occured during this thread which is why I have openly (more than once) suggested that the OP takes advice from ACTUAL qualified sorces (such as Trading Standards) so he can decide for himself whose advice he chooses to follow. Clearly the OP has satisfied himself that the advice i am giving is a tad more accurate and reliable than yours. The OP has further indicated to you that he no longer requires your input so I would sugest that you respect that which has been also requested by the site team.

 

Our conversation is at an end Jeepstar.

 

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Out of interest, what were the MoT failures mentioned?

 

Sorry, I missed this out on my last quote reply. The MoT failures were:

 

Reason(s) for refusal to issue Certificate

Nearside Rear Rear position lamp(s) not working (1.1.A.2b) **DANGEROUS**

Nearside Front Side repeater incorrect colour (1.4.A.2d) **DANGEROUS**

Nearside Front Windscreen washer provides insufficient washer liquid (8.2.3) **DANGEROUS**

Nearside Rear Brake load sensing valve linkage seized (3.6.E.4) **DANGEROUS**

Rear Exhaust has a major leak of exhaust gases (7.1.2a)

Nearside Rear Exhaust emissions carbon monoxide content after 2nd fast idle excessive (7.3.D.2b)

Advisory Notice issued

N\s\inner c/v/boot leaking slight air leak on servo

 

 

It must have had the problems above sorted out as it passed it's MoT the following day, but with the same advisory notice attached.

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Load sensing valve needing freeing off is B****y dangerous especially on a wet road. The fact that it was seized warrants a red ticket.

 

It would therefore appear that the standard of the test carried out 10 months ago is very iffy indeed. Two safety system items here. 1 advisory which should have been an immeadiate fail and 2. a seized load sensing valve where frankly if not changed by the MOT garage should have required the car either trailering away or being towed.

 

Other items are not realy dangerous but are a requirement that they work.

 

And before jeepstar starts blowing hot air about it being ok to free off, bare in mind why it seized in the first place. Freeing off never gets them back to full working condition and really should have been replaced. Check to see if it looks newish.

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OK jeepstar. Get me same said type of car and I'll lock LSV valve as though it seized, then put a leak into the servo. I'll put a load equivalent to a weeks shopping for a family in there as well, unsecured to help you.

 

Now you take it up a motorway in heavy rain at 60 mph and hit the brakes hard in traffic.

 

Result is that most probably this site and thread will get back to normal as you wouldn't be around but the unfortunate thing is you'd take out a lot of innocent people as well.

 

If I proposed this same said test under controlled test conditions by a team of test drivers such as I use they would tell me very quickly to foxtrot oscar and I'd probably be referred to the company psychatrist for even suggesting it.

 

If you had an ounce of decency about you, you would comply with post #99 as requested.

 

It is pretty obvious you have no real technical background or qualifications and previous posts suggest you are indeed a pub mechanic. You might have fiddled with cars and buy and sell them but you are no true reflection on the good side of the motor industry. In fact your attitude is exactly that which the industry is trying to avoid.

 

Finaly, please refrain from posting on this thread any more so we can get on with helping the op.

 

If you want a ruck start your own thread and I'm sure you'll get one but when you have been warned take heed. My fish one is the one to use if you don't have the imagination to create your own. Hurl abuse at that NOT here.

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Unfortunately its been required to unapprove some posts.

These distractions will stop now.If people cant take warnings then there remains little option but to take other action.

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The reported posts that have been made are acknowledged.

Attempts to bypass moderation are viewed seriously.

It is unfortunate that there are some who underestimate our ability to detect such abuses.

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He has joined the other departed one.

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So whats happened to our new guest; Motortrader then?

 

My guess would be motortrader was jeepster/jeepster2. It would explain why he was singing to the same tune as him.

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Its not good that your thread has attracted so much attention from unwelcome sources azza.

I find it quite staggering at the lengths and determination some will go to.

Hopefully now things can continue without these disruptions,but I and the rest of the site team will be monitoring just in case.

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I sent off the lba letter via 1st class recorded on saturday 14th May so a week ago today. How is the time limit worked out, is it just 14 days or 14 working days.

 

Thanks again for everyone's help.

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Consider it as 14 days including weekends.

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So deadline Sat28th.

Have you done a track and trace to see when it was delivered ?

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Its a good idea to print off the conf of delivery page with signature,then staple this with your PO receipt to a copy of the LBA.

 

https://www.royalmail.com/portal/sme/track?catId=62200738&mediaId=63900708

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I've just checked the tracking code and it looks like it's either not been delivered yet, either that or it was posted without a signature?

 

Item AH746418384GB was posted at Tates Lateshoppe DN2 5HY on 14/05/11 and is being progressed through our network for delivery.

 

Surely a week on from being posted 1st class recorded it's been delivered!

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No it doesnt mean that its not yet been delivered.

It could well be that the postman has not yet entered the data from his scanner onto the system.

If it has been delivered and there was no sig...it will usually say something like....your item xxxxxxx was delivered from our xxxxoffices on xxxxx we do not have proof of sig at this time please come back later........

So worth looking again maybe Monday afternoon.

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Hi guys. I've been checking the Royal Mail website all week to see if the delivery info for the letter had been updated and it's remained the same throughout.

 

The deadline for the dealer to respond to the lba letter was today and yet I've heard nothing. What is the next step now? I'll have another chat with CD and see what they say but being bank holiday weekend this will have to be on Tuesday at the earliest.

 

Many thanks

Aaron

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I've just checked the tracking code and it looks like it's either not been delivered yet, either that or it was posted without a signature?

 

 

 

Surely a week on from being posted 1st class recorded it's been delivered!

 

 

Which is precicely why I would only send such an important letter by Special Delivery. Most businesses get their post delivered in a bundle with an elastic band around and 9 times out of 10 are not asked to sign unless the recorded letter happenes to end up on top.

 

Special delivery is always treated differently and a signature will be obtained or the letter will not be delivered.

 

Your letter may or may not have been delivered - you just cannot prove it. However, in court you can show that you sent it.

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