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By belleofstmark · Posted
Thanks @FTMDave for the quick and clear instructions. All filed and submitted. What should I be preparing next? If you’ve seen lots of cases with this lot what is likely their next move? In the meantime they have been sending me letters offering me to pay them without going to court etc. -
Just be aware that foliage covering signs is not persuasive if you reside in the area and regularly used the said route concerned. One gentleman of recent, famous for disputing parking and speeding issues, just cost his client £1000's claiming that!! Dx -
Thanks for your reply. I will DM you this evening with more info, when I've got it all to hand. -
No, it clarifies nothing. As you say, there is a contradiction in that this company's employees have received invoices yet it is assumed they called the parking company in. I would suspect - and it is only a suspicion - that someone else called in the parking company to "manage" the whole estate. While you are dealing with this verbally anyone can come out with any old baloney and you'll have no proof of it. You need a paper trail. So e-mail the company, pointing out the reasons for your meeting with them and that you were not abusing the car park, and request they get the ticket cancelled. That way they will have to reply in writing and you can get to the bottom of this matter. -
Don't ignore As above, else just ignore them. Dx
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