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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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Hello,

 

Would be grateful for some help on this. I have received a PCN for alleged contravention 32JP - failing to drive in the direction shown by the arrow on a blue sign (PCN attached) on Riversdale Road in Islington. From the photographs it is clear this did happen. My dispute is that having just turned into the road the junction is rather confusing - although there is the blue arrow, there is no hatching in the box as in other junctions of this nature, the lines on the road are very faded and the double yellow lines on the left create an optical illusion that make it look too narrow to go through and more like a cycle lane. I might be clutching at straws here, but would like to fight this charge as it seems like Islington are making a killing on this given they see fit to have someone observing the junction real time!

 

Thanks for any help.

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Hello,

 

Would be grateful for some help on this. I have received a PCN for alleged contravention 32JP - failing to drive in the direction shown by the arrow on a blue sign (PCN attached) on Riversdale Road in Islington. From the photographs it is clear this did happen. My dispute is that having just turned into the road the junction is rather confusing - although there is the blue arrow, there is no hatching in the box as in other junctions of this nature, the lines on the road are very faded and the double yellow lines on the left create an optical illusion that make it look too narrow to go through and more like a cycle lane. I might be clutching at straws here, but would like to fight this charge as it seems like Islington are making a killing on this given they see fit to have someone observing the junction real time!

 

Thanks for any help.

 

 

Is the car yours or do you hire it? The 'offence' seemed to be in August making the PCN out of time?

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That's a keep left rather than a turn left. Is failure to comply with a keep left a decriminalised matter?

 

And is it correct to describe that as "failing to drive in the direction shown..."?

Post by me are intended as a discussion of the issues involved, as these are of general interest to me and others on the forum. Although it is hoped such discussion will be of use to readers, before exposing yourself to risk of loss you should not rely on any principles discussed without confirming the situation with a qualified person.

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That's a keep left rather than a turn left. Is failure to comply with a keep left a decriminalised matter?

 

And is it correct to describe that as "failing to drive in the direction shown..."?

 

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2002/02311331.gif

 

Diag 606 traffic must travel in direction indicated by the arrow

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http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2002/02311332.gif

 

Is the sign used but unless you could argue the wording of the PCN does not mean the same as follow the instructions given by the arrow its not a valid defence

 

Sign shown in diagram 610 and its significance

15. - (1) Except as provided in paragraphs (2) and (3), the requirement conveyed by the sign shown in diagram 610 shall be that vehicular traffic passing the sign must keep to the left of the sign where the arrow is pointed downwards to the left, or to the right of the sign where the arrow is pointed downwards to the right.

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I have looked at the photos. In my opnion you would be hard pressed to claim that the signs etc were misleading. There is a big keep left sign and one on the bollard. However there is a code covering the use of cameras by local councils in respect of traffic offences. I will re read it but the one thing that springs to mind is this. The camera opeator cannot view the film later so therefore they hve to watch you in real time. Sothat is an anvuenue worth exploring. Let me read the code again and reply later. It also covers the time limit for issueing of pcns.

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The Code of practice I have just read says pcns should be issued within 14 days and the operator should see the offence as it is happening in real time. The code of practice supplies the minimum standards and must be abided too by the council using cameras. So I would appeal to the council on the grounds that it appears that there has been a delay in issue and therefore a possible breach. I am assuming the car was registered at the right address etc. If the council dont accept your appeal can appeal to the adjucication service who might want to know why there was a delay. hope this helps these are all my own opnions etc.

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The Code of practice I have just read says pcns should be issued within 14 days and the operator should see the offence as it is happening in real time. The code of practice supplies the minimum standards and must be abided too by the council using cameras. So I would appeal to the council on the grounds that it appears that there has been a delay in issue and therefore a possible breach. I am assuming the car was registered at the right address etc. If the council dont accept your appeal can appeal to the adjucication service who might want to know why there was a delay. hope this helps these are all my own opnions etc.

 

Its a code of practice there is no obligation to abide by it, however the statute states 28 days as I already pointed out so this is the correct initial appeal.

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From the number of times this same traffic hazzard appears on the forum with people seeking help, it seems logical to conclude there is something misleading in this particular area.

 

From the photos, on this thread and others, it does look like it is quite clear cut, but I can't believe so many people can make what appears to be a simple mistake unless the hazzard looks more confusing "on the ground".

 

Likewise you would think that if the council want to stop people making this mistake they would re-look at how the markings are laid out or something to make it clearer. That would, of course, ensure that they derive no further income from this roadwhich may not be so appealing to them.

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From the number of times this same traffic hazzard appears on the forum with people seeking help, it seems logical to conclude there is something misleading in this particular area.

 

From the photos, on this thread and others, it does look like it is quite clear cut, but I can't believe so many people can make what appears to be a simple mistake unless the hazzard looks more confusing "on the ground".

 

Likewise you would think that if the council want to stop people making this mistake they would re-look at how the markings are laid out or something to make it clearer. That would, of course, ensure that they derive on further income from this roadwhich may not be so appealing to them.

 

Hundreds of people also park on bus stops, zig zags and other blatently obvious restrictions every week I think a high percentage just assume that as there is no one about its safe to do so. Not everyone frequents forums such as this and the idea of CCTV enforcement for anything other than bus lanes is not common knowledge.

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Hundreds of people also park on bus stops, zig zags and other blatently obvious restrictions every week I think a high percentage just assume that as there is no one about its safe to do so. Not everyone frequents forums such as this and the idea of CCTV enforcement for anything other than bus lanes is not common knowledge.

 

The difference being though that when people park on zig zags or bus stops they have generally done so intentionally (albeit illegally) knowing full well they shouldn't, but they can't be bothered to go and park where they should, hoping or believing they will not get caught.

 

In this particular error with these bollards, there is no benefit to the driver in getting from this side of the bollards to the other either by driving (correctly) around the left hand side, or by making this driving mistake of going through the middle section. Therefore I don't follow that they are doing so in blatant breach of the traffic signs, but more so because of a genuine mistake.

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Once again with this junction, the signs are crystal clear. Two very clear 'keep left' signs. You would need to be Mr McGoo not to see them. If you cannot see those signs, how are you going to see a child in the road?

 

I am sorry, but there is nothing confusing about the width restriction at all. It is set up to restrict the width of vehicles using the road, but the area in the centre is to allow certain large vehicles through, ie fire appliances, refuse vehicles.

 

People obviously have not obeyed the signs and cameras were installed presumably to catch lorries driving along the road that shouldn't. As a bonus they are catching car drivers who have become dizzy at the prospect of a blue sign.:rolleyes:

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The difference being though that when people park on zig zags or bus stops they have generally done so intentionally (albeit illegally) knowing full well they shouldn't, but they can't be bothered to go and park where they should, hoping or believing they will not get caught.

 

In this particular error with these bollards, there is no benefit to the driver in getting from this side of the bollards to the other either by driving (correctly) around the left hand side, or by making this driving mistake of going through the middle section. Therefore I don't follow that they are doing so in blatant breach of the traffic signs, but more so because of a genuine mistake.

 

One word springs to mind......laziness. Its much easier to scoot thru the middle than slow down to squeeze thru the restriction we also don't know how many vehicles are caught because they are oversize. You only have to look at some width restrictors to see they are covered with a multitude of paint colours and surrounded with stray bodywork to realise that people a) cannot judge their vehicle size b) do not know how big their vehicle is c) have poor vehicle control. Obviously some people are just making mistakes but as you say its as clear as day, some people cannot be helped.

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Green and mean any luck yet. regards credit allergy!

 

Limitation on service of penalty charge notice

(1) Subject to the provisions of this section, no penalty charge notice may be served under this Act after the expiry of the period of 28 days beginning with the date on which the alleged contravention or failure to comply ocurred.

 

London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003 (c. 3)

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BTW it seems a keep left sign is included within the scope of TMA 2004:

 

Traffic Management Act 2004 (c. 18)

 

Though I still think the PCN may be flawed as it uses the wrong description.

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BTW it seems a keep left sign is included within the scope of TMA 2004:

 

Traffic Management Act 2004 (c. 18)

 

Though I still think the PCN may be flawed as it uses the wrong description.

 

Not as flawed as your opening statement, the section of the TMA 2004 that covers moving traffic is not yet in force. ;-)

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Thanks for that, is there any simple way to find out which parts are in force without reading every commenecement order?

 

The same list of contraventions is also in the London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003 so I guess that is the right authority?

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