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Sounds like I'm going through exactly the same thing as you. RLP didn't ask for my daughters birth cert - they asked for the boy who did it to send a copy. I'm not sending RLP a thing - apart from the letter I already did telling them we are not at fault and won't be paying them.

No answer from Boots so far.

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You're right! Didn't even think of that - what about passport? Stuck between a rick and a hard place because if you don't send it you worry they'll take it further and if you do send it they have more info on you!

Well, if they do take it further they will have to prove your daughter's guilt anyway, she didn't do anything as it was taken without her knowledge, so they cannot prove something which doesn't exist.

 

Plus it is a bit off they are asking for details of children like this anyway.

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http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/show-post/post-2451448.html

 

Also quite interestingly they are charging *this* 15 year old child less.

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good to see you back jc

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I feel so sorry for all of you with teenagers. I have only just heard of RLP on CAG. Their conduct sounds appalling. I am beginning to worry about going into any of these stores with my five-year-old - seriously.

 

I wish you all the luck in the world in standing up to them and hope that Joncris's post about RLP above means that something is being done about their horrible treatment of all your children.

 

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Just had letter number 3 from RLP - saying that our 'defense' is not a legal defense and that unless we pay the now reduced rate of £35.00 they will be taking it further. They have said they will 'not enter into any more correspondence with us' - thank God for that!

 

I am not paying them a penny, and I would imagine we will soon be getting the debt collection letter - I don't even believe this 'register of names' thing exists.

 

The manager of Boots incidentally did not even have the decency to acknowledge my letter to him asking him to look at the CCTV.

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Just had letter number 3 from RLP - saying that our 'defense' is not a legal defense and that unless we pay the now reduced rate of £35.00 they will be taking it further. They have said they will 'not enter into any more correspondence with us' - thank God for that!

 

I am not paying them a penny, and I would imagine we will soon be getting the debt collection letter - I don't even believe this 'register of names' thing exists. Sorry but it does

 

The manager of Boots incidentally did not even have the decency to acknowledge my letter to him asking him to look at the CCTV.

 

see in red

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After posting my reply I saw the Cireco thing so i realised it does exist.

 

I'm still not paying it - I could afford to pay it on behalf of my daughter but she has DONE NOTHING WRONG. It would be easier to get rid of them but I'm not going to pay as it would be an admission of guilt.

 

I'll PM you regarding your earlier PM. Thanks.

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Well there is a light at the end of the tunnel!

 

The manager of Boots had not got my first letter. I re sent it and he phoned and was very nice and agreed to look into the situation.

 

He could not locate the CCTV which he said was passed to the police at the time of the incident but he felt that it was a small incident, it was difficult to prove whether my daughter was involved, or if there was any intent and he has said he will drop the whole thing, will write to RLP and that my daughter is not banned from the store or from the shopping centre (she had been told she was banned for 2 years!).

 

So fingers crossed that will be the end of the story. I hope.

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personal opinion and question to joncris here

 

if they refuse to remove the information after boots have said they will withdrawl the complaint are they or are they not keeping incorrect data

 

just curious as i know under the data protection act they are compelled to correct incorrect data if advised by the person the data is held about?

 

sorry for the thread hijack i will be quiet now

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That is absolutely appalling and something we need to add to our list of complaints when we take action next year.

 

Yet Another Suicide through Debt. We're going to fight back NOW!!

 

What is this country coming to when Boots say they are dropping it, but RLP are keeping her details. Does anyone want a police state?

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That is absolutely appalling and something we need to add to our list of complaints when we take action next year.

 

Yet Another Suicide through Debt. We're going to fight back NOW!!

 

What is this country coming to when Boots say they are dropping it, but RLP are keeping her details. Does anyone want a police state?

 

 

What do you mean by 'want' If you look around you it already exists

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