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i have a parking ticket sent to me in the post by UKPC for parking in catford island retail park.There was a sign clearly stating that there was two hours free parking .. my son parked for 15 mins and the car is registered to his father. There was no parking ticket place on my car the only thing i heard about it was a letter from UKPC stating i owed £90.

Then a very strongly worded letter from Debt Recovery Plus stating it is a legal requiremnt to send notice of intended litigation... i was not the driver only the owner and i have a photo of the sign at the premises that clearly states i my vehicle was allowed to pqark for 2 hours...and it stayed for 15 mins !! what to do and what letter to use???:-x:-x

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do nowt, nil, nadda

 

and what letter to use???

Not worth bothering with. It's been found on CAG over time that the PPCs don't even bother to read whatever letter you send them. To be honest, I think we are still awaiting evidence that anyone in the PPCs can actually read.

 

 

 

Ignore them completely

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You will probably get a few letters from them, the "debt Collection agency" on the next desk and possibly even get one from the "solicitors" (that's the tea-monkey).

Ignore them all!

Eventually they will give up and hound someone who is not so wise.

 

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Just confirm i should ignore them and not even bother send them a letter to tell them that i was not driving???Can they pursue this in the court or send baliff as they threatened??? firstly i did not get a ticket on the car..secondly i was not driving... thirdly it stated that parking could be for 2 hours free the car was there for 15 mins!!! and finally shall i bother telling them this or really just ignore them with no repercussions???

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yeah you can ignore it... as said here you're going to get all sorts of letters.. Its not a debt so they can't do anything to your credit file or give you a CCJ as it has to go to court first. They are well aware that you may not be the driver so they are just trying it on.

 

It is the first thing a court would ask and it would be thrown out on those grounds!

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If you admit you are the driver, then you are admitting that you breached the terms of the supposed contract... this is usually a flaw in the whole [problem] because they send the ticket to the registered keeper who is not necessarly the driver! By admitting in a letter you are the driver it seems to give the PPCs a bit of encouragement to take things further!

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Just confirm i should ignore them and not even bother send them a letter to tell them that i was not driving???

 

No, a complete waste of your time and money.

 

Can they pursue this in the court

 

Yes, but they won't

 

or send baliff as they threatened???

 

To get to the baliff stage, they first have to take you to court (see above). Then they have to win:lol::lol::lol:

Then you have to fail to pay the judgement, then and only then they apply for enforcement and the bailiff gets involved.

 

firstly i did not get a ticket on the car..secondly i was not driving...

 

Then they have absolutely no case against you. Under no circumstances contact them especially do not identify the driver.

thirdly it stated that parking could be for 2 hours free the car was there for 15 mins!!! and finally shall i bother telling them this or really just ignore them with no repercussions???

 

Just ignore them, give them nothing to go on, and nowhere to go.

 

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If you admit you are the driver, then you are admitting that you breached the terms of the supposed contract... this is usually a flaw in the whole [problem] because they send the ticket to the registered keeper who is not necessarly the driver! By admitting in a letter you are the driver it seems to give the PPCs a bit of encouragement to take things further!

 

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but a case was taken to court in the past and the PPC won because the defendant admitted to being the driver on a forum!

 

The PPC won because the defendant had a poor defence and dwelled on the driver side of things.

 

If you weren't the driver, great. You have a cast iron defence.

 

If you were the driver, don't spend your time dodging the issue and looking bad. Concentrate on the myriad of defences regarding the unenforceability of the charge.

 

It is the driver who breached the contract

 

And what is the remedy for alleged breach of contract...?

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and the remedy is?........

 

.... to return the claimant (landowner) to the same position he would have been in had the breach of contract not taken place.

 

i.e. if you overstayed in a free carpark by 5 minutes, then you should compenstate the landowner (not a 3rd party PPC) for the revenue he has lost by you using the car park for too long. Loss = 0

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Bit confused though, do I have to conpensate the landowner whoever that is now or later?

 

How would the landowner be loss=0?

 

Probably being thick here but if I understood it I would probably be a lawyer!

 

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What crem is saying that this is a civil matter. This means that you can not be taken to court and made to pay a fine or a penalty, as that would be a punishment and no joe blogs can impose a penalty on another.

 

If the car park charged £1 per hour, and you paid £1, but stayed for two, then the landowner could take you to court for breach of contract, and only sue you for its loss because of it... which would be £1 (for the second hour). He could not charge you £70 for a PCN etc. because the only loss incurred would be the £1 if someone else had actually used the space and paid!

 

If it's a free car park, then they lost £0 by you overstaying because if someone else had come along, they would have been doing it for free too!!!

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