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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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Finally after trying lots of times i got straight thru to james- he took the details and will call me back within a week. Watch this space.

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Hi Sarah

 

Many congratulations on your win - have just spent an hour reading the complete thread - what a journey!! Keep pressing on! You have really encouraged me to make a claim against Abbey for all the charges they have made me pay.

 

I'll keep an eye on your story with great interest!

 

The thing that worried me about this whole procedure was having to actually go to court, but it looks like, from what I've read, most of these banks settle before that!

 

Louise:)

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Hi Sarah

 

Many congratulations on your win - have just spent an hour reading the complete thread - what a journey!! Keep pressing on! You have really encouraged me to make a claim against Abbey for all the charges they have made me pay.

 

I'll keep an eye on your story with great interest!

 

The thing that worried me about this whole procedure was having to actually go to court, but it looks like, from what I've read, most of these banks settle before that!

 

Louise:)

 

Thanks for your congratulations- yes it really is a journey! An hour WOW- it has become a epic!!!

 

I was scared about the court bit too but as you say they never go, and they have much more to lose than us so i am ready to go if i have to.

 

Take them on and reclaim YOUR money. Go girl! :)

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Finally after trying lots of times i got straight thru to james- he took the details and will call me back within a week. Watch this space.

 

he never called me back so on monday i will ammend the claim details to include compensation

I've beat HSBC, GE Money and Abbey

 

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he never called me back so on monday i will ammend the claim details to include compensation

 

Sarah,

Give him one more chance, call him on Monday (after 1pm) start the conversation with "You said you would call me back but you have not, I wanted to give you one final chance to resolve this before I ammend my POC"

See what he say`s, its got to be worth giving it a try.

 

James is a good guy, he is just so snowed under at the moment with the massive increase in claims that Abbey have had this year:o

His target is to deal with each claim to get a resolution and keep Abbey out of court, he just sometimes needs a bit of an extra push to be able to achieve this.

 

Hope this is of help

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thanks for that- will do :)

 

Sarah,

Give him one more chance, call him on Monday (after 1pm) start the conversation with "You said you would call me back but you have not, I wanted to give you one final chance to resolve this before I ammend my POC"

See what he say`s, its got to be worth giving it a try.

 

James is a good guy, he is just so snowed under at the moment with the massive increase in claims that Abbey have had this year:o

His target is to deal with each claim to get a resolution and keep Abbey out of court, he just sometimes needs a bit of an extra push to be able to achieve this.

 

Hope this is of help

I've beat HSBC, GE Money and Abbey

 

Court pending V Barclays and Time Retail

 

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just spoke with James - HI IF YOU ARE READING!!!

 

He indicated that he doesnt think they will remove the default and that he doesnt know what is happening with Moorcroft. Very unsatisfactory really- he has until Thursday to call me back or i advised him i will change the poc. I told him that i am more than ready to go to court to fight for the default removal and to also ask for compensation as this whol;e business is making me ill.

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spoke with james again today- I had to call him as he never calls back even if he promises. each time i speak with him i have to refresh his memory ie tell him the whole details again.... any way.... he still isnt hopeful about removing the default and hasnt even given resolution to the debt recovery agency either- therfore i think i need to submit a change of poc. court date is 23rd april- will call him again tomorrow to give him 1 last chance of sort this out but i am not hopeful as he is really dragging his heels on the default being removed. any one got any ideas about this?

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still no word from james- will leave it now and wait to attend court. sent a letter to court detailing progress ie money refund- think this will do

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Hi Sarah

They are really dragging their heels. Have you been on to Tanzarellis thread Cap One, I know he got his removed. Maybe he could give you some pointers on how he finally won and got them to agree to remove his default.

Good Luck

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Hi sarah13,

 

Did they send a cheque?

 

I sent mine back and told them that I was not preparred to accept a monetary payment until they had agreed to remove the default, also that I still would not withdraw my claim until this happened.

 

I have sent for Credit Files from Call Credit (which it is still showing on) and also am wating to recieve Credit file from Equifax and Experian.

 

My claim is still ongoing and until it is removed this will continue, however I am still waiting.

 

If you need any help let me know.

 

Tanz

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Sarah

 

Removing a default:

 

try this

 

Remove Default Notices on a Credit File - We show you how

 

Z

 

thanks for that- i have had a read but i am kind of past that stage as i will be attending court next week regarding this and have included a copy of the letter advising of the default in my court bundle- but thanks anyway

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Hi sarah13,

 

Did they send a cheque?

 

I sent mine back and told them that I was not preparred to accept a monetary payment until they had agreed to remove the default, also that I still would not withdraw my claim until this happened.

 

I have sent for Credit Files from Call Credit (which it is still showing on) and also am wating to recieve Credit file from Equifax and Experian.

 

My claim is still ongoing and until it is removed this will continue, however I am still waiting.

 

If you need any help let me know.

 

Tanz

 

thanks for replying. they did send a cheque back at the end of dec which was made payable to my father and has been cashed and spent long since. so this is not an option for me.

i have credit reports from equifax and experien and am awaiting call credit too.

 

my claim is also still ongoing even though i have had the money the default is obviously v important too.

 

will continue on my crusade to get some answerd from james before next week, otherwise i will have to attend court.

I've beat HSBC, GE Money and Abbey

 

Court pending V Barclays and Time Retail

 

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i have just spoken with james and inga. moorcroft have officially been instructed to stop bugging me and i was told the default has been removed and will show up in about 24hrs. this is being sent in writing so hopefully my claim against abbey is finally over- will not chuck out the paperwork yet tho. Very pleased esp re the default . I'm :) smiling now!!!!

I've beat HSBC, GE Money and Abbey

 

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received this email from Inga at Abbey

 

I refer to our telephone conversation today.

I can confirm that our Debt Management Department have instructed Moorcroft to cease recovery on monies from you.

I can also confirm that the adverse credit reference has been deleted from the record. This removal may take a couple of days to update.

Could you please now contact the Court and withdraw your claim and provide me with a copy of your letter (email is fine).

GOOD RESULT

Very pleased but will only write this letter when i know the default is gone.:)

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