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    • Hi T911 and welcome to CAG. As you say, an interesting screw up. So much for quality control! Anyway, our regular advice is to ignore all of their increasingly threatening missives... UNLESS you get a letter of claim, then come back here and we'll help you write a "snotty letter" to help them decide whether to take it any further with their stoopid pics. If you get mail you're unsure of, just upload it for the team to have a look.
    • Thanks @lolerzthat's an extremely helpful post. There is no mention of a permit scheme in the lease and likewise, no variation was made to bring this system in. I recall seeing something like a quiet enjoyment clause, but will need to re-read it and confirm. VERY interesting point on the 1987 Act. There hasn't been an AGM in years and I've tried to get one to start to no avail. However, I'll aim to find out more about how the PPC was brought in and revert. Can I test with you and others on the logic of not parking for a few months? I'm ready to fight OPS, so if they go nuclear on me then surely it doesn't matter? I assume that I will keep getting PCNs as long as I live here, so it doesn't make sense for me to change the way that I park?  Unless... You are suggesting that having 5 or so outstanding PCNs, will negatively affect any court case e.g. through bad optics? Or are we trying to force their hand to go to court with only 2 outstanding PCNs?
    • That is so very tempting.   They are doing my annual review as we speak and I'm waiting for their response once I have it I will consider my next steps.    The debt camel website mentioned above is amzing and helping to. Education me alot    
    • Sending you a big hug. I’m sorry your going through this. The letters they send sound aweful, and the waiting game for them to stop. But these guys seem so knowledgable and these letters should stop. Hang in there, and keep in touch. Don’t feel alone 
    • In my time I've never seen a payout/commission from a PPC to a landlord/MA. Normally the installation of all the cameras/payment of warden patrols etc is free but PPCs keep 100% of the ticket revenue. Not saying it doesn't happen mind. I've done some more digging on this: Remember, what your lease doesn't say is just as important as what it does say. If your lease doesn't mention a parking scheme/employment of a PPC/Paying PCNs etc you're under no legal obligation to play along to the PPC's or the MA's "Terms and conditions". I highly doubt your lease had a variation in place to bring in this permit system. Your lease will likely have a "quiet enjoyment" clause for your demised space and the common areas and having to fight a PPC/MA just to park would breach that. Your lease has supremacy of contract, but I do agree it's worth keeping cool and not parking there (and hence getting PCNs) for a couple months just so that the PPC doesn't get blinded by greed and go nuclear on you if you have 4 or 5 PCNs outstanding. At your next AGM, bring it up that the parking controls need to be removed and mention the legal reasons why. One reason is that under S37(5b) Landlord and Tenant Act 1987,  more than 75% of leaseholders and/or the landlord would have needed to agree, and less than 10% opposed, for the variation to take place. I highly doubt a ballot even happened before the PPC was bought in so OPS even being there is unlawful, breaching the terms of your lease. In this legal sense,  the communal vote of the "directors" of the freehold company would have counted for ONE vote of however many flats there are (leases/tenants) + 1 (landlord). It's going to be interesting to see where this goes.  
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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Yes, that is to stop you paying them off bit by bit - silly idiots - wouldn't it be easier for people to do that if they can't pay it back in one month.

 

I believe all loans of this type should be payable over a 3 month period with NO rollover charge being more than 25% of the remaining balance... but do they see that as a good deal - NOPE

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Sadly no, you need to change bank accounts as the company have your bank details and will 'dip into' your account from time to time to see if there are any funds, and take the lot... it has happened even when cards have been cancelled so getting your salary paid into another account puts you back in the driving seat.

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I've reported lostinspace1000 as they clearly are missing the point of the forum, that we are NOT advocating debt advoidance but getting people off the 'reloan' bandwagon.

 

Getting more credit is NOT what our posters want, nor need, what they are trying to do with this type of loan is get back onto the straight and narrow without having to rely on the credit bandwagon.

 

As the whole mortgage market still seems closed to all but the very wealthy or cash rich it seems pointless to even allow a loan of under £1000 to damage long term prospects, where is the logical sense in that?

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Take any voicemails Gavin leaves you to your local police station and say they are contributing to your panic attacks... they are completely unreasonable and cannot be allowed to continue harrassing customers who do want to pay them back, but not the £59 charge which is daylight robbery AND the rollover fee on top of the original loan.

 

As soon as possible get another bank account, Halifax have a good online one with debit card and online banking. Get your wages paid into this next month then you have some breathing space. It is the only way to guarantee you will have money for your PRIORITY bills.

 

Come back on here if you have any more hassle and we will advise accordingly.

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Please remember that PTP are NOT entitled to any Financial Statement, they will only misuse the information on it in THEIR favour. You must NEVER give out income/expenditure details NOR your National Insurance No just in case.....

 

I cant stress the above enough, same as having your salary paid into another bank account to avoid them taking the lot.

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mBlessing20 - that is the way to deal with them, I had one Canadian guy from QQ ranting on for about 20 minutes how he hates 'people like me' borrowing money and then backing down on the deal.. as I had earlier paid them back I let him rant and then he said '"What do you have to say'... I said 'You have the wrong person, debt repaid earlier today... goodbye and hope the rest of your shift gives you grief.'

 

They like to keep it verbal because they know they won't be able to use the phone calls as court evidence as they will go against them, that is why everytime one calls you should email, even if it is to the collections email, that they called and what is said.

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Cooldude, that is why I recommend getting another bank account and paying them from the old one, that way they cannot go in and 'appropriate' your funds. Certain of these companies (Wonga in particular) have a history of doing this and nobody seems able to stop them.

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