ACS:Law copyright file sharing claims, Gallant Macmillan - and probably some others along the way...

[cerberusalert]

What's a LOD that others have sent ?

 

Letter Of Denial

[blackscooby]

Letter Of Denial

 

Is there a template for such a thing ?

Apologies for the novice questions...

 

Thanks

[mr.ton]

They are about as threatening & worrying as a new born puppy

Anyone can put anything down on a letter like this & people being the way they are in modern Britain will instantly have a fear of it etc...

I honestly have not had 1 of these letters yet...but im praying that i do receive 1 as they will have threatened the wrong person with me & will know about it

[cerberusalert]

Is there a template for such a thing ?

Apologies for the novice questions...

 

Thanks

 

....................I did not download and did not make available for upload your clients work “Two Worlds” via my Internet connection, nor did I authorise anyone else to do so.

 

I deny any breach of the CDPA 1988 sections 16(1)(d) and 20 of the act.

 

I have never possessed a copy of the work in any form, nor have I distributed it, or authorised anyone else to distribute it using my internet connection.

 

Any proceedings that you may choose to take will be fully and vigorously defended, please inform your client that if they wish to pursue this matter, I will seek to recover all my costs to the maximum permitted by the Civil Procedure Rules.

[lucky charm]

Hi, I'm new to all this but have been reading these posts with great interest as I too have received a letter about Scooter. I previously posted this in a different thread but have now put it into this one. I have been in touch with my ISP and they said that ACS Law had been in touch with them and they had confirmed that I'm a broadband customer with them, no other information. The guy from my ISP provider said that the company works on behalf of the government and I need to take this up with them as they can't help me with anything else. I have no idea what to do next to be honest. The legal advice I obtained wasn't very useful and they've basically told me that it would be more costly to me getting a solicitor to work on behalf of me than to pay the £500! Any advice would be greatly received.

[cashins]

Well 1st off, dont pay them.

 

They have dished out around 6000 of these letters and as far as I am aware have yet to take anyone to court, probably because they would really struggle if they did.

 

There is a template letter, (coincidently in the post before yours), adapt and sent them that.

 

David

[D_arkTrooper]

The London postal strike may have some impact on the speed at which ACS get their threat-o-grams and replies dispatched (and of course LoD's sent by us).

[mr.ton]

I do wish that with the amount of guests we have reading into this thread at any one time.....that just 1 of them happens to be from ACS Law themselves

[unknownee]

my lod was delivered and was redirected and signed for by a signature that says 'yub' looooooooooooooool.

[cerberusalert]

They're probably busy responding to questions from the Trading Standards, the OFT, the ICO, Solicitors Regulation Authority, various MPs, Newspapers and T.V programs + anyone else people have complained to.

[mr.ton]

Even the police?

[Wooky]

There seems to be some doubt as to whether ISPs will make or have made available peoples addresses. As I received a letter yesterday I contacted customers services at BT and was told that they had definately not disclosed my details. However, today I contacted another department and was told that ISPs were directed by the high court to disclose the information and that it was very likely that my details has been disclosed.

It would seem that customer services staff are completely in the dark about this matter and genuinely think that address disclosure can only happen at the request of the police.

 

In order to obtain further information about the disclosure of your details, BT internet customers should write to:

 

BT Specialist Litigation dept

BT Centre

PPA6.A

81 Newgate Street

London

EC1A 7AJ

[darkone0]

I sent my LOD yesterday and will wait for response. Has anyone who sent LOD had a reply from this "firm"?

D

[Gregwah1]

Hi all I am very new to these forums - but I too have recieved a letter from ACS:LAW claiming coyright infringment for downloading an album by Scooter!!! Never have & never will!!! Like many others I dropped a log when I first read they wanted £500 to settle or go to court. I've been panicing about how I would pay this etc. but have spent some time doing my homework and it is forums like this that really help. To the person that said they may ask if they can pay in installments - don't and don't offer to pay squat! There is a very useful website www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=1028774

 

Use this site it is extremely useful - it details the letter of denial and gives you a template to use. I am not technically minded and was told they have computer forensic evidence and an IP address along with details they obtained from BT to prove it was me. I contacted BT who stated not only had they never had a request for this information bt nor would they EVER provide such information as it is a clear breach of The Data Protection act!!! So they are falsifying information by claiming your internet provider had given them the details! I have also contcted trading standards who were very interested, but their advice is DO respond to these letters and DO DENY - USE THE LOD TEMPLATED from the above web page. They have logged my comlaint. I have also spoken to the police - they stated that for any misuse of internet/downloading/copying/file sharing - it will be YOUR INTERNET PROVIDOR knocking at your door not an individuals solicitor!! I also confirmed this with BT. It baffles me that these solicitors are still able to hold legitimate residence and act in this manner. I will not be paying - there is so much information out there on ACS:LAW - read around and don;t be rushed into paying for anything - thats what they want you to do. They are on Watchdog, Which? magazine, BBC, BBC radio 4. If they get 15-40% of their targets paying because they are frightened of court then they earn 1/4 million quid straight off. I have only just passed through the frightened phase, but with support from sources i'm in the let em prove it phase as I have not downloaded the 'accused file'!! And they can't prove it at all and they know it! Last piece of interesting info - it would take someone who knows what they are doing less than 30 seconds to gain access to your 'SECURE' wireless internet account. Sorry to have rambles but really hope this is useful!! These people are **** who are effectivly blackmailers & fraudsters

 

Thanks

[D_arkTrooper]

Nice 1st post Greg (and welcome to the forums).Certainly,the more I read posts like yours,the more confident I feel that this whole unpleasant situation will lead to a happy ending.

[Wooky]

"I contacted BT who stated not only had they never had a request for this information bt nor would they EVER provide such information as it is a clear breach of The Data Protection act!!! "

 

BT customer services will tell you this because that is what they think but actually their legal department will tell you a different story. Your details will have been released and the data protection act is no protection against a high court order. How else do you think your address and the addresses of all the other thousands of users were obtained?

[mr.ton]

Can a high court order be brought against ACS?

[andydd]

"I contacted BT who stated not only had they never had a request for this information bt nor would they EVER provide such information as it is a clear breach of The Data Protection act!!! "

 

BT customer services will tell you this because that is what they think but actually their legal department will tell you a different story. Your details will have been released and the data protection act is no protection against a high court order. How else do you think your address and the addresses of all the other thousands of users were obtained?

 

If you go back to the beginning of this thread youll see that Virgin Media said a similar story, ..i.e..they didnt release info, or, its a [problem], ignore it...The truth is that all the ISP's involved DID release the name and addresses required BUT alas some of the call center staff are clueless about all this.

 

Andy

[cerberusalert]

All the ISPs received court orders to reveal the information. There's a link to the order earlier in the thread if you look.

[lucky charm]

When I first contacted my ISP (as suggested by a solicitor) they told me that they would never release any information on me. The guy I spoke to said he would double check and contact me the next day, which he did. He then told me that they had been approached and had confirmed that I was a broadband customer of theirs. He said that ACS: Law work on behalf of the government and my ISP could no longer help me in any way and to deal with ACS: Law directly.

 

My concern is because this supposedly happened over a year ago and I have no idea if this was dowloaded or not. If I protest my innocence but then its found that it was downloaded, what happens then? I have been speaking to various solicitors and all have suggested paying it off now before it could get any worse or incur further costs.

 

Has anyone ignored the first letter and if so, what happens next? Has anyone got a reply to their first letter of denial? Has anyone actually downloaded this and done anything?

[mr.ton]

He said that ACS: Law work on behalf of the government

 

Hmmmm..if true, how politically sensitive that could be for Gordon Brown with under a year to go till the general election 8-)

[cerberusalert]

He said that ACS: Law work on behalf of the government and my ISP could no longer help me in any way and to deal with ACS: Law directly.

 

Of course they do & Idi Amin is going to be Beatified.

[mr.ton]

I suppose you could argue that if they work for the government, then technically we own ACS Law as we are the bosses of the government effectivley

[pridewat]

When I first contacted my ISP (as suggested by a solicitor) they told me that they would never release any information on me. The guy I spoke to said he would double check and contact me the next day, which he did. He then told me that they had been approached and had confirmed that I was a broadband customer of theirs. He said that ACS: Law work on behalf of the government and my ISP could no longer help me in any way and to deal with ACS: Law directly.

 

My concern is because this supposedly happened over a year ago and I have no idea if this was dowloaded or not. If I protest my innocence but then its found that it was downloaded, what happens then? I have been speaking to various solicitors and all have suggested paying it off now before it could get any worse or incur further costs.

 

Has anyone ignored the first letter and if so, what happens next? Has anyone got a reply to their first letter of denial? Has anyone actually downloaded this and done anything?

 

Well my matey, i appreciate that it was a year ago, but either you have done it or you have not. if i have not then i wont pay a penny to these greedy bullies simply because it may not go away and possibly they may come back with another infringement letter for something else. I rather spend that money to pay my own solicitor for my defense and if i have not done it then sue them for my suffering with all my cost. If you have a solicitor experienced in IP law then i dont think they will take you to court(although its possible) because it will not be cost effective for them.

Edited July 10, 2009 by pridewat

[cashins]

because it will not be cost effective for them.

 

They would also have a problem that it was you that did it anyway.

 

david