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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
    • Thanks for all the suggestions so far I will amend original WS and send again for review.  While looking at my post at very beginning when I submitted photos of signs around the car park I noticed that it says 5 hours maximum stay while the signage sent by solicitor shows 4 hours maximum stay but mine is related to electric bay abuse not sure if this can be of any use in WS.
    • Not sure what to make of that or what it means for me, I was just about to head to my kip and it's a bit too late for legalise. When is the "expenditure occured"?  When they start spending money to write to me?  Or is this a bad thing (as "harsh" would imply)? When all is said and done, I do not have two beans to rub together, we rent our home and EVERYTHING of value has been purchased by and is in my wife's name and we are not financially linked in any way.  So at least if I can't escape my fate I can at least know that they will get sweet FA from me anyway   edit:  ah.. Sophia Harrison: Time bar decision tough on claimants WWW.SCOTTISHLEGAL.COM Time bar is a very complex area of law in Scotland relating to the period in which a claim for breach of duty can be pursued. The Scottish government...   This explains it like I am 5.  So, a good thing then because creditors clearly know they have suffered a loss the minute I stop paying them, this is why it is "harsh" (for them, not me)? Am I understanding this correctly?  
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The whole ACS Law/Slyck thing was hillarious....Crossley just refers back to his old debt collector default position eventually by using lanaguage such as "you have failed" lol

As with any debt collector or solicitor for that matter, the minute you put them in their place & tell them what is what they soon back off.

The only way people like Crossley even remotely succeed is because of the still many people out there who will cave into him from the start sadly.

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Hello all again, I have just received a 3rd letter. Whats worrying about this one is that I had only sent off my LOD to the 2nd letter last week.

 

Its totally freaking me out as I was thinking that it would be at least a month before I'd hear back from them again....if ever. I'm one of the MediaCAT bunch from February and received a 2nd letter at the begining of June. I did not do what I'm being accused of (well my IP is being accused of) neither did I allow anyone to do so.

 

Am now seriously thinking about getting intouch with Michael Coyle at Lawdit, as has been stated on this forum. Has anyone been in contact with him before? Did it help? It seems that this 3rd letter will be the last "good natured" one before a court summons. Got an FAQ letter attached in with the "invoice", not that it makes any difference to the fact that I never did it. Fee has not changed, and have 14 days to respond. Feeling some real pressure here......

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He is trying to scare you into paying, this is how it works. The letters get more and more threatening, ranging from "last letter before court" or "part 36" offers etc. The chances of you going to court are slim but its that slim margin that usually is enough to scare people into paying, guilty or not. As a guilty person is actually in exactly the same position as an innocent person in this situation, as in you can not prove you didn't commit the offence.

 

Your options,

 

1, Ignore it,

2, Pay up and it goes away,

3, reply and probably get a 4th letter.

 

If you have clearly stated your case in your first and second letters, and do not want to pay then you are probably best to ignore it.

 

P.S, the reason his reply was fast is because it is coming to the end of this batch of invoices, he has another 45,000 ip's to sort out soon if nothing changes with regards to the law and judges handing out the court orders with out thinking of the consequences.

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He is trying to scare you into paying, this is how it works. The letters get more and more threatening, ranging from "last letter before court" or "part 36" offers etc. The chances of you going to court are slim but its that slim margin that usually is enough to scare people into paying, guilty or not. As a guilty person is actually in exactly the same position as an innocent person in this situation, as in you can not prove you didn't commit the offence.

 

Your options,

 

1, Ignore it,

2, Pay up and it goes away,

3, reply and probably get a 4th letter.

 

If you have clearly stated your case in your first and second letters, and do not want to pay then you are probably best to ignore it.

 

P.S, the reason his reply was fast is because it is coming to the end of this batch of invoices, he has another 45,000 ip's to sort out soon if nothing changes with regards to the law and judges handing out the court orders with out thinking of the consequences.

 

Paying up ISN'T the answer, unless of course if you are guilty (even then the monies claimed is out of proportion to the offence). All you are doing by paying up when innocent is marking yourself as a target for further claims. Yes, it may be a mistake or more than likely someone has hijacked your IP or spoofing it, so chances are more infringements will come to light.

 

Anyway, why would you pay if you hadn't done the infringement?

 

I've said all along, a single LOD stating the facts without giving away unnecessary information and advising no further correspondance will be entered into should suffice.

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hi, new user, been following thread since page 110 when I got my first letter in march/april time, used the great advice here to construct my first LOD and everything else.

I need to reply to my 2nd letter soon but am struggling with what to write, wondered if anyone can help or point me in the right direction, i'm not stupid, but as this is legal stuff, detailed help would be great, thinking for myself is no good lol!

 

it's a media cat case, "no payment,satisfactory response" "response was template response,declined to accept at face value" "if it becomes necessary to issue proceedings" "therefore urge you to use this opportunity to settle"

 

also included is a fact sheet.

 

thanks in advance,

BH

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hi, new user, been following thread since page 110 when I got my first letter in march/april time, used the great advice here to construct my first LOD and everything else.

I need to reply to my 2nd letter soon but am struggling with what to write, wondered if anyone can help or point me in the right direction, i'm not stupid, but as this is legal stuff, detailed help would be great, thinking for myself is no good lol!

 

it's a media cat case, "no payment,satisfactory response" "response was template response,declined to accept at face value" "if it becomes necessary to issue proceedings" "therefore urge you to use this opportunity to settle"

 

also included is a fact sheet.

 

thanks in advance,

BH

 

First let me say I am no legal expert and you are advise to seek independent legal advise, but if you have already issue a LOD, my response would be that you note their contents and you position remains unchanged and refer them to your first LOD. The most important point is to advise them that you will not enter into any further correspondance. This way if they fish again it could be construed as harrassment.

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Paying up ISN'T the answer, unless of course if you are guilty (even then the monies claimed is out of proportion to the offence). All you are doing by paying up when innocent is marking yourself as a target for further claims. Yes, it may be a mistake or more than likely someone has hijacked your IP or spoofing it, so chances are more infringements will come to light.

 

Anyway, why would you pay if you hadn't done the infringement?

 

I've said all along, a single LOD stating the facts without giving away unnecessary information and advising no further correspondance will be entered into should suffice.

 

Was just outlining all his options.

 

Oh by the way, one thing to note. No mater of your actions how you handle your particular case, you are at no way at more risk of receiving more letters for potential future cases no mater what you choose to do. If your ip address pops up on the lists, denied previous or paid. You will receive a new letter regardless. If evidence started falling out of the trees "ie made up" the people involved would have long jail sentence because of the millions of pounds claimed and received and more to come, I really doubt ACS would pursue this path.

 

The absolute worst thing you can do in any case is sign the contract thing you will receive with your first letter. This is a 100% admission of guilt and could lead to worse consequences if "you" are caught again sharing the file/files. So I would advise no body to sign this and if you are guilty of said offence contact a solicitor to bargain down the fee to a more reasonable level and insist on not signing this "contract" (I cant remember the legal name for it).

 

I wonder what the outcome of the Ofcom digital rights review will be. Discussion is due to end on the 30th of July, will be interesting.

 

Oh one quest i would like to ask, what was the outcome of the One Show thing? has it been cancelled because nobody was willing to appear in front of the camera because of the sheer embarrassment factor of being accused of sharing porn? Or will the feature continue with out an interview?

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OK ACS Law are back in court today to get more addresses,

Court Hearings - Proceedings Before the Masters' Chancery Division

Proceedings Before the Masters – Chancery Division

 

ROOM TM7.08

Before CHIEF MASTER WINEGARTEN

Wednesday 7th July 2010

At half past 11

Media C.A.T. v BE Unlimited

 

Prepare for a new batch of letters, unless we can get the ISPs to fight back as so far from the thousands of names and addresses and subsequent letters, not one person has been taken to court over this.

 

BRITISH JUSTICE.........i think not:cry:

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OK ACS Law are back in court today to get more addresses,

Court Hearings - Proceedings Before the Masters' Chancery Division

 

 

Prepare for a new batch of letters, unless we can get the ISPs to fight back as so far from the thousands of names and addresses and subsequent letters, not one person has been taken to court over this.

 

BRITISH JUSTICE.........i think not:cry:

 

What on earth is going on now ?. Why is a single provider being taken to court ?. Maybe the provider has taken the company to court ?. :)

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my response would be that you note their contents and you position remains unchanged and refer them to your first LOD. The most important point is to advise them that you will not enter into any further correspondance. This way if they fish again it could be construed as harrassment.

 

Agree

 

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BE Unlimited, the ISP on todays NPO are also one of the ISP's on the 19 Nov 09 NPO, which states in Clause 11.

Within six months of the date of disclosure referred to in paragraph 3 above, the Applicant shall provide to Respondents 1, 2, 5 and 6 a written report stating precisely from the relevant names disclosed (1) how many of those persons were sent letters of claim, and (2) against which persons legal proceedings were issued."

BE Unlimited are Respondent 1. They should have got a report from ACS Law by now. If they have received it and it says what we all think it will say, that noone has been taken to court, then they should have contested the NPO.

 

Another ISP not standing up for its PAYING SUBSCRIBERS!! grr.gif

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BE Unlimited, the ISP on todays NPO are also one of the ISP's on the 19 Nov 09 NPO, which states in Clause 11.

BE Unlimited are Respondent 1. They should have got a report from ACS Law by now. If they have received it and it says what we all think it will say, that noone has been taken to court, then they should have contested the NPO.

 

Another ISP not standing up for its PAYING SUBSCRIBERS!! grr.gif

 

 

So, does this mean that the other ISP's are?

Have any of them received a report as to how many have been taken to court? Have any of them confirmed that they have even asked for the information that is legally obliged to be provided?

It does seem to be curious that only BE Unlimited are being targeted on this NPO as all the others were targeted on the February order.

 

Could it be that they have, after all, been working together on our behalf, quietly and unassuming in the background, collecting their evidence, not wanting to alert Mr Crossley of their intentions, waiting for the right time to strike back to champion the innocent .......OOOPS, so sorry... I got a bit carried away!!!!!!

 

Anyway... it still goes on

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Apparently the courts only list 1 defendant........... and as BE probably in alphabetical order would appear at the top the rest are (I am not certain) but probably on there.

 

 

Does this mean that there is going to be another batch of claim letters sent out ?. :mad:

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It appears that there is a new company entering this business.They are Gallant MacMillan a company based in Soho. My friend tells me that the letter the received has the same allegations that are not unsimilar to ACS. Anyone else received a letter ? Thay also post in the highly trackable and reliable second class post.

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@captain-123 . Apparently it is for £ 375 'ish around April 10 for alleged offence. Ministry of Sound I have been informed. However it says that Easynet has identified my friend as the owner of the IP address, but they are not with Easynet....strange !!

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I think Easynet rent their bandwidth to other companies along the line of BT which rent to Sky at least I think that is the case.

 

So in the same ball parks as ACS. Do they mention the monitoring company?

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@captain-123 I understand that, however if they say that it was Easynet who gave out the details, I know for a fact that the supplier was not affiliated to Easynet. Which then beggers the question, how did they get the details of my friend ? Is there file sharing going on amongst these solictors. How ironic would that be !! There is one big diffence in the letters they send out, if you are willing to pay the price they are asking, you can keep the downloaded file as long as you do not share it. The Gallant MacMillan web site is apparently www.pay-2-play.co.uk

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I think Easynet rent their bandwidth to other companies along the line of BT which rent to Sky at least I think that is the case.

 

So in the same ball parks as ACS. Do they mention the monitoring company?

 

You are right. Easynet lease their lines out.

 

Is this confirmed as a new player in the mailshot campaign?

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hi, i just registered here, by doing a search about a letter for galland macmillian, asking for 375 for filesharing a ministry of sound file, it states i can keep the copy but not to share it, it states the ip address, date and time, what do i do??? thanks for any answers

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MASTER WINEGARTEN

Tuesday 27th April 2010

 

At 11 o’clock

Ministry of Sound Recordings v Entanet International Ltd

 

Entanet International Ltd is a wholesaler of broadband - although generally to business / resellers rather than direct to the public.

 

This is what was posted on slyc . com

 

I'm not sure what has happened if your friends ISP has no affiliation with Entanet or isn't on the NPO. I don't think that solisitors are allowed to pass information to one another

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