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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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DO NOT PAY, if you do they could take it as an admission of guilt. Possibly accuse you of other things, in the future. If your innocent why should you pay, you would just be lining this so called firms pockets. I am sure that I have heard of someone that has paid out, they then came after them for more money. The majority of us are all in the same boat, it is worrying but thats what they are counting on so that people pay to make it go away.

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hi all well ive sent the letter of denial and i contacted their office to ask if they had recieved it. didnt go into conversation about it to them on the phone just asked if they had recieved it, ok they had and i put the phone down on them.

 

not heard owt since. ( was 2 - 3 weeks ago)

 

All the new peeps on this, please dont worry, dont pay em feck all and more importantly, dont ignore the first letter.

 

simply send a letter very basic,for example: i didnt do it and provide me with all the evidence you say you hold in case it did go to court so i could be suitably represented.

 

simples.

 

these jokers make my blood boil and i can see how this is an easy money maker for them as the first instict is fear. bloody damn predators.

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Wow got my letter through on Friday on behlaf of Media Cat asking for £1200 for a Porn film British Granny ****!!! needless to say that's not really my thing!

 

 

Peer-to-peer Stand Off - Tiscali goes against the British Pornographic Industry - Softpedia

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hey guys just been shown the same letter stamped 17th Feb 2010 regarding "Evacuate the Dancefloor" did some checking on the address and it came up with a company called FLAWLESS IMAGE residing at 20 Hanover square. I checked the law society listed address of ACS:Law (20 Hanover Square, London W1S 1HX) against the address given on the letter (20 Hanover Square, London W1S 1JY) how can you have the same street number but different postcodes. Also the Chancery Chambers stamp on mine in the top right corner has a scribble over a number 3. im pretty sure this is a [problem], and was planning to ignore it. thankfully found you guys on here and will take your advice on sending out an LOD

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hey guys just been shown the same letter stamped 17th Feb 2010 regarding "Evacuate the Dancefloor" did some checking on the address and it came up with a company called FLAWLESS IMAGE residing at 20 Hanover square. I checked the law society listed address of ACS:Law (20 Hanover Square, London W1S 1HX) against the address given on the letter (20 Hanover Square, London W1S 1JY) how can you have the same street number but different postcodes. Also the Chancery Chambers stamp on mine in the top right corner has a scribble over a number 3. im pretty sure this is a [problem], and was planning to ignore it. thankfully found you guys on here and will take your advice on sending out an LOD

 

Hi loki23,

Somebody has just shown me there letter and I too noticed the scribble over the stamp which also appear to be the number 3 and quality of the print it poor and pixilated, like a 2nd or 3rd generation scan or photocopy. If it was printed from the original document I very much doubt you'd get that kind of pixaliation round the lettering.

 

 

This letter is between:

(1) ALLAN KOPIE

(2) MANUEL REUTER

(3) YANN PEIFER

-and-

(1) BE UN LIMITED

(2) BRITISH SKY BROADCASTING LIMITED

(3) BRITISH TELECOMMUNICATIONS PLC

(4) EASYNET LIMITED

(5) PLUSNET PLC

(6) TELEFONICA O2 UK LIMITED

 

Its dated 17 Feb 2010

I/A No. 2 of 2010 - Front Page

I/A No.[] of 2010 - Back page

 

Does anyone have a differnt list of ISP's or do we all have the same? Judging by the fact the letter looks like a photocopy I suppect we all have the same list.

But I'll find it strange if nobody has VIRGIN Media or Cable and Wireless listed.

 

Back Page - on this letter its off center and the I.A No. (as above) is different to the front page, does anyone know what this I/A No. means? Could just be and ACS internal thing but I'd think it should be conistant though the document unless they piece together different documents for this letter which would explain the photocopy appearance.

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Hi abc

 

scared like a rabbit in a headlights over this.

 

Which is EXACTLY what they are banking on (literally). Only the scared, clueless, worried pay up. It is NOT the answer as it can be taken as an admission of guilt. The chances are that for the innocent, someone else has spoofed or hijacked the connection and if you pay up you just add yourself to the hitlist for more invoicing.

 

Send a single letter of denial advising them that no futher correspondance will be entered into.

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hey guys just been shown the same letter stamped 17th Feb 2010 regarding "Evacuate the Dancefloor" did some checking on the address and it came up with a company called FLAWLESS IMAGE residing at 20 Hanover square. I checked the law society listed address of ACS:Law (20 Hanover Square, London W1S 1HX) against the address given on the letter (20 Hanover Square, London W1S 1JY) how can you have the same street number but different postcodes. Also the Chancery Chambers stamp on mine in the top right corner has a scribble over a number 3. im pretty sure this is a [problem], and was planning to ignore it. thankfully found you guys on here and will take your advice on sending out an LOD

 

20 Hanover Square is a virtual office. Loads of companies do it. ACS don't exist in the real world and the office is used for sending post to. In the past others have called in person to the office only to get another company representative meet them in reception. It is possible for FLAWLESS IMAGE to actually reside there.

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For anyone who needs to use a template,

 

Search online for The Speculative Invoicing Handbook. Not only does it provide a comprehensive guide to the whole scheme that ACS Law employ, it also contains a template LOD.

 

It is well known that if you use a template for your 1st LOD, ACS Law will reply saying they dont accept it "as it is based on a template available on the internet"

 

With this in mind I wrote my own LOD based loosely on the template mentioned above, in fact it bore little resemblance to the template and I still got their standard "as it is based on a template available on the internet" reply. (which, irionicaly IS a template letter)

 

I think the main points are that;

 

1. You do respond with a letter, either a template or your own work explaining that you did not do it. (If you didn't)

 

2. In your letter do not give any extra information away. They have to prove it was YOU that infringed copyright - you do not have to prove your innocence.

 

3. Be prepeared to receive several letters, including a "Part 36" offer where the origial amount of the claim goes up. This is them using "scary" legal speak to try to get you to panic into payng.

 

4. Be prepeared to wait a while between letters.

 

5. Report ACS Law to the SRA. They are already investigating ACS Laws conduct.

 

6. Report them to Which, Watchdog, the Legal Complaints Service. These can all easily be found by searching online.

 

 

i have also received a letter from ACS Law. very shocked. a little scared and completely bewildered.

 

there is some great advice here. thanks tp123.

 

i have looked at this on wikipedia. here is what it says there-

 

Digital Download Controversy

 

In May/June 2010 this track became the latest digital content to be used by Uk solicitors ACS Law in a speculative invoicing campaign. ACS Law are already under investigation by the SRA (Solicitors Regulatory Authority) over this practice which was first instigated in the UK by Davenport Lyons (SRA investigation results pending). ACS Law use a Switzerland based company to harvest ip addresses of UK internet users and then target those users with claims for money running into several hundreds of pounds for alleged copyright infringements conducted over peer to peer networks. The ip addresses are presented to a Court in the UK under a Norwich Pharmacological Order and the ISP's holding those ip addresses are forced to reveal who their records state held the ip address at that snapshot in time. It is worth noting that this method of harvesting ip addresses remains wholly untested under UK law but has been outlawed in several EU member countries. Anybody contacted by ACS Law is advised to seek help either through a qualified solicitor or one of the many reputable self help sites available on the internet.

BBC watchdog, Which magazine, several national newspapers, the SRA and other regulatory bodies are all aware of the conduct of this company.

 

i will not be paying. no way. i will be using a template as a guide to create my own reply and send this vie recorded delivery soon.

 

the scary thing is, if it wasnt for sites like this i would probably be scared into paying.

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Hi loki23,

Somebody has just shown me there letter and I too noticed the scribble over the stamp which also appear to be the number 3 and quality of the print it poor and pixilated, like a 2nd or 3rd generation scan or photocopy. If it was printed from the original document I very much doubt you'd get that kind of pixaliation round the lettering.

 

 

This letter is between:

(1) ALLAN KOPIE

(2) MANUEL REUTER

(3) YANN PEIFER

-and-

(1) BE UN LIMITED

(2) BRITISH SKY BROADCASTING LIMITED

(3) BRITISH TELECOMMUNICATIONS PLC

(4) EASYNET LIMITED

(5) PLUSNET PLC

(6) TELEFONICA O2 UK LIMITED

 

Its dated 17 Feb 2010

I/A No. 2 of 2010 - Front Page

I/A No.[] of 2010 - Back page

 

Does anyone have a differnt list of ISP's or do we all have the same? Judging by the fact the letter looks like a photocopy I suppect we all have the same list.

But I'll find it strange if nobody has VIRGIN Media or Cable and Wireless listed.

 

Back Page - on this letter its off center and the I.A No. (as above) is different to the front page, does anyone know what this I/A No. means? Could just be and ACS internal thing but I'd think it should be conistant though the document unless they piece together different documents for this letter which would explain the photocopy appearance.

 

i have the same letter with the same bit scribbled out.

 

i have contacted sky and they have snet out a generic reply stating they had to comply with the court order. its also worth noting that easynet is also sky.

 

i genuinely believe the isp,s arent to blame here. they have to comply with a court order. it is strange though how only certain ones have been contacted and not all.

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I have just got the evacuate the dancefloor letter today.

Apparently I uploaded it last September WHILEST I WAS ON HOLIDAY!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Although we were only camping in wales, so I don't know how to prove that..

 

I didn't have wifi security back then as my crappy Sky router kept crashing, it was since replaced.

 

Last November I moved house, the letter was addressed to my new address and I am now with TalkTalk and not a Sky customer at all (but Sky have my new address they keep begging me to come back 12months half price - not now!)

 

Letter says was uTorrent with related title UK Top 40 Singles Chart 13-09-2009. Does this mean I'll be getting a letter for each of the top 40?

 

Going to do a LOD as seems to be the general advice, but should I mention I was on holiday or simply use a template and save my evidence for court?

Thinking of going out and buying the single just in case. Or wait is it a movie? They can't make up their mind. Must be a musical...

 

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hi

 

the general advice on a couple of sites is to give as basic a response as possible. keep it generic.

 

although i am in no was legaly trained, i wouldnt personaly tell them i was away or even that the router was unsecure at this stage. its all ammo for later.

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nomoremoney

 

The claim is only for 'evacuate the dancefloor' the Production team/writers behind cascada not the whole top 40.

 

Many posts stress DO NOT give any more information than is required on the standard LOD especially information on what type of connection/router you where using at the time.

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Thanks mackaz

 

very clever how they make it look so official, which i guess is why people pay out to end the process

 

or does it?:confused:

 

im no expert. i dread to think what could happen if an innocnet person admitted liability. if this is for one song. what about the same company or sister companies persuing you for other songs. could get expensive.:eek:

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i have also received a letter from ACS Law. very shocked. a little scared and completely bewildered.

 

there is some great advice here. thanks tp123.

 

i have looked at this on wikipedia. here is what it says there-

 

Digital Download Controversy

 

In May/June 2010 this track became the latest digital content to be used by Uk solicitors ACS Law in a speculative invoicing campaign. ACS Law are already under investigation by the SRA (Solicitors Regulatory Authority) over this practice which was first instigated in the UK by Davenport Lyons (SRA investigation results pending). ACS Law use a Switzerland based company to harvest ip addresses of UK internet users and then target those users with claims for money running into several hundreds of pounds for alleged copyright infringements conducted over peer to peer networks. The ip addresses are presented to a Court in the UK under a Norwich Pharmacological Order and the ISP's holding those ip addresses are forced to reveal who their records state held the ip address at that snapshot in time. It is worth noting that this method of harvesting ip addresses remains wholly untested under UK law but has been outlawed in several EU member countries. Anybody contacted by ACS Law is advised to seek help either through a qualified solicitor or one of the many reputable self help sites available on the internet.

BBC watchdog, Which magazine, several national newspapers, the SRA and other regulatory bodies are all aware of the conduct of this company.

 

i will not be paying. no way. i will be using a template as a guide to create my own reply and send this vie recorded delivery soon.

 

the scary thing is, if it wasnt for sites like this i would probably be scared into paying.

 

 

Great that was me and I'm glad you've either as a result or subsequently found help to deal with this.

 

Maybe if we add such an article to all wikipedia entries relating to the affected media more people will find out about this practice as the Wiki pages do tend to come out pretty high up on the google rankings?

 

Keep it clean and accurate and then it can be contested if certain people try to get it removed.

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i have the same letter with the same bit scribbled out.

 

i have contacted sky and they have snet out a generic reply stating they had to comply with the court order. its also worth noting that easynet is also sky.

 

i genuinely believe the isp,s arent to blame here. they have to comply with a court order. it is strange though how only certain ones have been contacted and not all.

 

Hi mackaz,

I agree can't blame the ISP's for responding to a court order (I'm assuming there was a court order issued as i'm no legal expert.) but i'd be interested to know how they got the list IP Address's in question, I've not read the full thread but at a glance I've only noticed people saying they've contacted sky but haven't noticed anyone contact any other ISP's, which is what makes me question the source of the information, if its from a company in Switzerland are they only able to target certain ISP users for some reason?

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Utorrent displays the IP addresses of everyone downloading the file; It even sometimes gives the name of the ISP and Geographical country related to the IP. They must be downloading the same file to actually find out who else is downloading the file. In essence, they are committing the same 'crime'.

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Hi Everyone!

 

This company is being investigated through the Solicitors Regulation Authority. You need to contact them and complete the form. All you need to do is give the name of the company. This sort of [problem] is wrecking peoples lives!!! The more of us that have been scamed and that report this to the SRA the quicker they will get closed down!

 

 

Solicitors Regulation Authority - For consumers

 

Tel - 0870 606 2555

 

Just give them a call - like I said, you don't have to give them any details just the company name and they will explain that they are being investigated.

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