ACS:Law copyright file sharing claims, Gallant Macmillan - and probably some others along the way...

[Shaggy123]

Great looks like they are up to their weird and wonderful fishing tactics again.

 

Every body google Acs law questionnaire if you haven't already heard.

 

I am still wondering should i even reply to the 2nd letter. If so what do i write?

 

I'm ignoring any letters they send. I responded to the first one and invited them to take me to court so unless they take me ot court they'll get no further correspondence.

 

It's up to you what you do but that's my stance, rightly or wrongly i do not know.

[Scooby Doo69]

I'm ignoring any letters they send. I responded to the first one and invited them to take me to court so unless they take me ot court they'll get no further correspondence.

 

It's up to you what you do but that's my stance, rightly or wrongly i do not know.

 

 

Shaggy,

 

It's my opinion that to send one single LOD is the correct thing to do, but to clearly state that no further correspondance will be entered into. That way it could be considered harrassment if further letters are sent requesting more information and offers of settlement, questionnaires, etc.

[Shaggy123]

Shaggy,

 

It's my opinion that to send one single LOD is the correct thing to do, but to clearly state that no further correspondance will be entered into. That way it could be considered harrassment if further letters are sent requesting more information and offers of settlement, questionnaires, etc.

 

That's exactly how I've judged and played it.

 

Provide evidence or quit sending me letters!

[fisherman06]

Just a quick matter that i need help with, my last dealings with ACS Law was my second LOD sent on 1/8/09 which was in reply to a letter stating that they would not accept my first as it was a template.The second LOD stated again I had done nothing wrong and had refered the matter to SRA etc. I have moved house as of 19/2/10 should I give ACS Law my new address.

[tp123]

Just a quick matter that i need help with, my last dealings with ACS Law was my second LOD sent on 1/8/09 which was in reply to a letter stating that they would not accept my first as it was a template.The second LOD stated again I had done nothing wrong and had refered the matter to SRA etc. I have moved house as of 19/2/10 should I give ACS Law my new address.

 

I am likely going to be moving house within the next few months and have also wandered about this. My plan is to have the mail redirected for a year and not tell ACS Law my new address. My feeling is that I would have taken reasonable steps to make myself available to recieve correspondance.

 

I don't think it is unfair to assume that if ACS Law were serious about persuing their ridiculous claim, they would have done it within what would be, by that time, a year and a half since their initial letter.

[jongee50]

Aaaaaaghh help, just found this website and have read all these posts, I recently had a form from ACS unfortunately as I suffer from Anxiety and Depression(for which I am taking prescribed medication from my GP) I unwittingly filled in their forms and have paid a sum of money and agreed to pay instalments to them.Can I stop, complain, what should I do.

[smiler876]

take advice from your local citizens advice or consult a solicitor - most hold a drop in session for free. Do it as soon as possible and dont pay a penny until you've spoken to them.

[ccsnet]

Movies - News - 'Hurt Locker' producers sue filesharers - Digital Spy

 

The Hurt Locker reportedly appeared online six months before its theatrical release.

Says it all really - go after those that grabbed it ( possibly by IP ) rather than keep your own house in order.....

 

Terran

[eastend]

Today received 2nd Letter from ACS now doubling the amount to £990 as i sent letter of denial to first letter - shall not reply and shall not pay. I have already contacted the SRA after first letter and they are dealing with the matter, i shall also inform them of this letter.

[Scooby Doo69]

Sounds like they are really getting desperate before the plug gets pulled.

The recommended fine in relation to the offence is £50.

Makes the mind boggle how anyone in their right mind would pay such an amount.

[zero_flight]

I have also received my 2nd letter from ACS Law, stating that I have responded using a template, etc. The amount has doubled to £990 also (Notice of offer to settle - Part 36). The amazing thing is that they have spelt my name wrong on the letter. Not sure what to do at the moment.

[tp123]

I to recieved second letter today - amount also £990. I find it ironic that in their letter which is clearly a template, they say they refuse to accept my letter as it is "based on a template letter from the internet." I didn't even use a template!

[zero_flight]

Not really sure what to do, I changed the wording so that it was not identical to the template. I took legal advice following receiving the first letter, they told me to respond back, which I did. I think that I will have to send a 2nd letter of denial and make it very clear that I will not be corresponding any further with them. If they wish to take me to court then they can gladly do so.

[tp123]

@zero flight,

 

Thats pretty much the same as what I intend to do. I will write once more to reiterate my inocence, state that I will not be corresponding following this and that I will consider any further letters from them as harassment. I didn't do it, I can prove I didn't do it so if they want to take me to court it will be a costly mistake on their behalf.

[zero_flight]

How much longer can this company continue to get away with these practices ?. Its totally beyond belief.

[summer30]

Just found this post and trawled the lot! A friends had this letter and me being a cagger I said Id check up.

 

Got them to ring their service provider and apparently they arent the first person with the exact same named file to ring them today.

 

ISP also said they have to give out that information by law and do not need a court order to do so, but they are getting court orders for bulk IPs several thousand at a time I assume thats why some have said the court paper looks photocopied?

 

 

Hope this might help any others reading the thread.

Edited June 3, 2010 by summer30

[Scooby Doo69]

Just found this post and trawled the lot! A friends had this letter and me being a cagger I said Id check up.

 

Got them to ring their service provider and apparently they arent the first person with the exact same named file to ring them today.

 

ISP also said they have to give out that information by law and do not need a court order to do so, but they are getting court orders for bulk IPs several thousand at a time I assume thats why some have said the court paper looks photocopied?

 

 

Hope this might help any others reading the thread.

 

They DO need a Court Order. ACS Law got one to force ISPs to hand over the information. Otherwise the ISP could be sued under the Data Protection Act for disclosing personal information without due reason.

 

The difference is how much an ISP is willing to fight the NPOs for their customers. Talk Talk said they would so they got left of the last NPO. Virgin Media made similar rumblings. Only the likes of BT and Sky (the latter no doubt for it's own personal reasons with Murdoch connections to the media) decided to roll over without a fight.

 

The template blag is a ploy to get people to pay up. If the facts of a denial are included then it could be wrote on a beer mat and sent to ACS.

 

Telling them to feck off in a polite manner and no further correspondance will be entered into would be the way I'd go, but to take legal advice is imperative.

[TADDOX]

Sounds like they are really getting desperate before the plug gets pulled.

The recommended fine in relation to the offence is £50.

Makes the mind boggle how anyone in their right mind would pay such an amount.

 

You think the plug will get pulled on this? Like a lot of posters, I'm no legal expert, but my layman's understanding was that the OFCOM regulations and the Digital Bill do not preclude civil actions of this nature being carried out. I guess the lawmen who issue the NPOs might get a bit more stubborn if there are official OFCOM regs. on the procedure for dealing with offenders, but then, they aren't necessarily specialists in the area. One of the veterans over at Slyck read the OFCOM draft proposals and highlighted some interesting things about how civil cases should be conducted using the same procedures as criminal prosecutions. I genuinely don't know myself- but this has been going on for years with little government interest in the Shylock-esque undertones of the mass-litigation approach...

[Scooby Doo69]

Maybe, but the negative publicity will eventually brow beat the SRA into action and at some time word will get around to the point that it will no longer become a viable venture for ACS.

 

I worry that it will take someone killing themselves over receiving one of these letters for the press to pick up the story and end the whole debacle.

[zero_flight]

As I mentioned in my post yesterday I have received my second letter off this disgraceful firm. I have sought independent legal advice, they have advised me to reply with another LOD. I intend to make it very clear that, that will be end of any further contact. They have also said that people are within their own rights to use templates. Also they are using legal jargon (fear tactics) to get people to pay out. So where ACS law are coming from I have know idea, they must be just grasping at straws. I have again contacted the SRA and Which, I have sent them a copy of the letter sent out to me. The person from which has been very helpful to me. This might help other people that are in the same situation.

[PanchoVilla]

First Post:

hi forum

Got my first letter from ACS

Let's pretend the following:

I am (for the sake of narrative, this is fiction) guilty of DLing the 'movie' mentioned. I also uploaded it at 10kbs for maybe 2 days.

I called my ISP (in this fictinal world, O2) and they refused to comment on the case, so obviousy (is this was reality, which is it not, mr. Crossey) the briefs have been in contact with my ISP.

I am a computer illiterate; i don't know what a router password is, hell, i don't know what a router is. No one told me I would be liable for neighbours/war drivers when I signed up to my webby net contract

What is a bittorrent?

Do you have a mac address relating a nic?

Do you have me in possession of said nic with that mac?

See you in court mr Crossley.

Obviously all make believe on my part

Edited June 7, 2010 by PanchoVilla
vodka

[PanchoVilla]

Been reading some posts guys, and I'm pretty mangled due to vodka and ACS freaking me out, but BBC Watchdog.. might be a two edged sword. I mean, everyone of us has DLed something, otherwise it would be "HOW DARE THEY"

This is about privacy and, more importantly, being caught.

DAMN! THEY GOT ME!

Its also about some schmuck solicitor being a goddamn jerk, which is the crux of the matter.

As far as I know, my neighbour has hacked my crappy router using rainbow tables and I thank god Mr Crossley has alerted me to it before the guy goes to the REALLY dark side. As for £495 and his really ****tily photocopied court papers with the names and dates crossed out.....

Andy, can you whistle? Just put those lips together......

[kangaroodownunder]

Had a letter today about a Movie that I have never even heard of. Interestingly, having got over the shock/ horror of a legal letter, I have spent time on the web this morning and certainly feel a lot calmer now... mind you.. they are only looking for 295pounds.. maybe they are trying to get as much money as possible now before things close in..

[eastend]

Just found this after a search - quite interesting - but apologies if its been highlighted before

 

ACS Law and Part 36 letters - Copyright Law Articles and News - Lawdit Reading Room

[siemza]

I got my 1st letter today.

 

I found this magical template and have reworded it but as you said erlier it is in my legal rights to use a template anyways...

 

I am going to wait till monday to see my Citizens Advice Beaurau, ask them to take a look at the letter then post it off.

 

I dont know what else u can do, , has this ever just GONE AWAY?