Possible illegal activity at the DVLA

[Big Bill]

I have been trawling the DVLA regulations on privately importing cars from the USA because we have been in dispute over mine for 7 months.

 

Local Office Transactions Instructions, Chapter 34 under the paragraph Certificate of Title :- a car which has been registered in the USA must be given an pre March VRM from the Model year. e.g. a 2008 model gets a 57 plate.

 

However, a fair proportion of 2008 models are registered before 1st September 2007. This would require an 07 plate to be assigned. Now if you obtain a registration (57) that makes your car appear younger than it is (07) you are comitting a criminal offence.

 

What offence if any is the DVLA comiting when they force you to have one that does just that. Even the usual defence of "we only go on the information prvided" doen't wash in this case.

This is part of my complaint which has gone off to the PHSO.

 

Another silly thing, you can appeal to the Secretary of State against the decision of the DVLA based on their inspection of the car, but you must be trying to obtain a new registration for a mini bus that has benn scrapped and subsequently repaired, all other vehicles are disqualified.

{Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) Regulations 2002 regulation 15 , Schedule 3}

 

Has anyone noticed that the DVLA have collected £15,000,000 selling 6,000,000 names and addresses to the list of companies on the website. Some of these companies are run by known criminals.

 

They also collected £9,000,000 from their premium rate numbers in spite of the fact that premium rate numbers are outlawed in government departments.

Edited May 5, 2009 by Big Bill
spelling error

[crem]

A standard UK registration would be;

 

Sept 07 to Dec 07 = 57

Jan 08 to Feb 08 = 57

Mar 08 to Aug 08 = 08

Sept 08 to Dec 08 = 58

 

Therefore if you assign a 57 plate for any US import covering Jan 08 to Dec 08 you are giving it the oldest possible VEM and thereofre not making it look younger.

[Big Bill]

The assignment of a date related VRM is based on the date it was first registered in the USA.

 

You will note that a 2008 model can be registered in the USA prior to September 2007 because they start deliveries of 2008 models in june/july 2007.

 

This means that a not insignificant proportion of 2008 models which were produced between June and August and registered immediately should have been assigned an 07 plate on importation to the UK, the 57 only starts September 1st. Of course if it is not registered until October 2009 it still gets a 57 plate according to the DVLA rules when it should have been a 59.

 

 

This kind of confusion caused the DVLA to assign a plate for mine which stopped being issued three and a half months before it was made.

 

This goes for any year of model.

Edited May 4, 2009 by Big Bill
Clarify and spelling errors

[crem]

So if it was registered in the USA prior to September 07. irrelevant as to what "model" it was, then it will have a 2007 plate. By the DVLA website, when it is imported, it will be declared as a "2007 registered" car and therefore be given a "56" plate being the oldest version of the VED within the year Jan 07 to Dec 07.

[Big Bill]

A 2007 model could have been registered before september 2006 thus being assigned an 06 plate. If it registered after September 2006 and before March 2007 it gets a 56 plate and march to August 2007 gets an 07 plate after September 2007 then it should have had a 57 plate.

 

The DVLA's rules overlook the pre September registrations and state that it must get a 56 plate unless you can show that the date of manufacture or the date of first registration in the US, was on or after March 1st 2007.

 

There is no way that you will get an 06 plate unless you know the rules and specifically tell them to do so. This is the usual get-out, in that if you don't tell them it is not their fault.

 

Since it took a specific request under freedom of information act to get a sight of the rules, most people are simply ignorant of the fact that they are comitting an offence, and what is more the records of the DVLA do not contain the information to detect that offence.

 

Now if you obtained a 56 plate when the vehicle should have had on 06 plate by falsifying your application then you will be prosecuted for fraud and could be liable for imprisonment up to two years.