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Oh dear :eek:

HAVE YOU BEEN TREATED UNFAIRLY BY CREDITORS OR DCA's?

 

BEWARE OF CLAIMS MANAGEMENT COMPANIES OFFERING TO WRITE OFF YOUR DEBTS.

 

 

Please note opinions given by rory32 are offered informally as a lay-person in good faith based on personal experience. For legal advice, you must always consult a registered and insured lawyer.

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Bring it on!

 

:)

omnia praesumuntur legitime facta donec probetur in contrarium

 

 

Please note: I am not a member of the legal profession, all advice given is purely my opinion, if in doubt consult a professional

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Its like a conspiracy theory film, trouble is I'm really starting to think that the whole system is rotten to the core - desperate men, fraud, shredding documents etc. All we are waiting for is a high ranking banker plunging from a high rise office block.

 

How did we let ourselves get into this mess, and where were the people we elect to prevent things like this happening?

 

I'm no longer proud to be British.

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Well it's no great suprise. After all they are being sued in the US for a very similar sort of thing.

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Its like a conspiracy theory film, trouble is I'm really starting to think that the whole system is rotten to the core - desperate men, fraud, shredding documents etc. All we are waiting for is a high ranking banker plunging from a high rise office block.

 

How did we let ourselves get into this mess, and where were the people we elect to prevent things like this happening?

 

I'm no longer proud to be British.

 

 

Banker jumping from high rise office block!! They could sell tickets.....I'd buy one:)

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Well!!! well !!! well!!!

Why would anyone think that of our poor Sir Freddie the poor man....wonder why he can't be contacted???:D

 

sparkie

 

 

Please don't forget at the next election that Broon brown nosed (sorry for the pun) this banker from the start of his time in goverrnment Sir crook was his favourite banker of all time

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I'm no longer proud to be British.
Rather than not being proud to be British it would be more appropriate to be ashamed of any government who owns 70% of a bank and then goes cap in hand to them ASKING them to do things - if you can please sir and if it's not to much trouble might you...

 

My only consolation is it's a governemt I didn't vote for.

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Please don't forget at the next election that Broon brown nosed (sorry for the pun) this banker from the start of his time in goverrnment Sir crook was his favourite banker of all time

 

 

HI JonCris,

 

That must be why he can't be contacted ...............he's hiding in the cellar at Downing street maybe.

sparkie

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Great news Lets hope the do a better job than last time eh Paul

 

Lets hope so.

 

The RBS rights issue last year would fall under the scope of the Fraud Act 2006 therefore section 2,3,4 may be relevant.

 

Paul

An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. <br />

Winston Churchill

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Very interest.... but then again some have said that RBS have been creative with paperwork in the past.

 

Still not a patch on whats to come to solve this financial crisis - a rumoured world currency with all others regional currencies pegged to it, bought to us by the main central banks.

Advice offered by ENRON is without prejudice and is for your judgement as to whether to take it. You should seek the assistance or hire of a solicitor or other paid professional if in doubt.

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The World currency will eventually need a World government.

 

World government will mean eventual global enslavement. Not at first but bit by bit our rights will be stripped away and the state will become more and more powerful in peoples lives, with increased powers for the police and authorities to examine our private lives in more and more detail. Sound familiar?

 

The New World Order is coming.

 

Get ready to live on the prison planet, sheeples. By the time its done and dusted, it will be too late. Its probably too late anyway, but get ready to go down fighting.

 

 

6 months ago I thought this was just another flakey conspiracy theory, now it seems to be a done deal.

 

Alex Jones' Prison Planet.com

 

Gordon Brown is now talking about a new world order, too.

 

Brown Warns Against Protectionism - Yahoo! News UK

 

"The Prime Minister did say, however, that the world should not be pessimistic but view today's problems as "the birth-pangs of a new global order" and a chance to create "a better future"."

 

 

 

Better future for whom?

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yeh but it'll be the Yanks who will do anything about the bent bankers Our regulator & police will say there's insufficient evidence as they have time & time again..................... we now live in a banana republic

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