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    • Hi, I've been reading the invaluable advice on this forum and reading about the problems with Evri and lost delivery of items.  From what I gather the initial steps after having exhausted every's own lost item claim process is to draft a Letter of Claim, I think it is called and to register with the government Money Claims.  I have got a login for Money Claims and have made an initial stab at the letter but I'm not certain I have got it right. Am I right to assume that having exhausted Evri customer service's claims process and having received the denial of any compensation because the laptop I was sending is on the non-compensatory list that my next step would be to send the Letter of Claim to them? Let me provide some basic details which I hopefully have addressed in the letter. I purchased a laptop through Amazon.co.uk which a business in Belfast sold refurbished laptops through.  They had a 30 day money back guarantee for a full refund if you have any issues with the laptop.  I have the invoice from Amazon showing the purchase.  On 27 April, 2024 before the end of the 30 day period I used their ParcelShop (inside a Tesco) to send the laptop back and have the tracking reference mentioned in the letter.  As mentioned in the letter there was they advised they could not give me or sell me any insurance because laptops are on the non-compensatory list so I just paid the normal delivery cost.  It was scanned as leaving the ParcelShop on 29 April and the tracking has been like that ever since.  After a 28 working day Evri claim process they gave the expected response that they could not provide any compensation and simply could not proceed with my claim. I was hoping to get some advice on whether I go ahead now and email this to Customer Services straightaway and should I send a hard-copy to the Evri address as well?  Or are there any steps I have missed out on first?  I believe 14 days is the reasonable period of time for them to respond so if I were to send it tomorrow, for example 12 June then I should expect a reply by 26 June, is that correct and fair?  And assuming they don't reply with a full refund then I would then go down the government Money Claims site to proceed with that? Sorry for all the questions, I want to make sure I go about it properly.  I'll continue to read through other cases on here so I can get an even better handle on the process. I attached a LOC, happy for any edits or updates that will make it even better. Thanks so much for anyone's help! Regards, Matt Evri letter of claim.docx
    • The date was 3 June. Get on MCOL now. The legal principle is that, even if you defence is late, if the other party hasn't requested judgement, then your defence takes priority and is accepted. You might be in time. When I say now I mean now.  Recently we had someone who was nine days' late and this was pointed out to them at 5:30pm.  They faffed around till 11pm.  When they went on MCOl they saw that judgement had been entered at 7pm. Every minute is vital. File the below standard defence if you still can - 1.  The Defendant is the recorded keeper of [motor vehicle]. 2.  It is denied that the Defendant entered into a contract with the Claimant. 3.  As held by the Upper Tax Tribunal in Vehicle Control Services Limited v HMRC [2012] UKUT 129 (TCC), any contract requires offer and acceptance.  The Claimant was simply contracted by the landowner to provide car-park management services and is not capable of entering into a contract with the Defendant on its own account, as the car park is owned by and the terms of entry set by the landowner.  Accordingly, it is denied that the Claimant has authority to bring this claim.    4.  In any case it is denied that the Defendant broke the terms of a contract with the Claimant. 5.  The Claimant is attempting double recovery by adding an additional sum not included in the original offer.  6.  The Particulars of Claim is denied in its entirety.  It is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief at all.
    • Hi friends,  I’m a bit worried I may have got confused with timings here. I thought I had 33 days from my acknowledgment to submit a defence but the date added above says 3/6/24.   have I missed the date?   if so how can I apply for an exception due to my disability and problems with deadlines and dates etc (ADHD)?   what should I submit as a defence?   I’ve had no reply from BW so far    just been back on MCOL and it says 28 days from service if I completed an acknowledgment of service so does that mean 28 days from that of acknowledgement (I.e. 16/5) which would make deadline for defence 14/6?   Thanks! Panicking here.
    • Normally we don't advise playing your cards early in a snotty letter, but as you have appealed we might as well use what you wrote in the appeal against them. There is no rush, you have until 6 July to get it to them.  See what the other regulars think too. How about something like this? -   Dear Rachael & Sean, cheers for your Letter of Claim.  I rolled around on the floor in laughter at the idea you'd actually thought I'd take such tripe seriously and would cough up! As usual you'll have been too bone idle to do any due diligence.  Had you done so you would have seen that I appealed to your client.  Indeed the driver on the day is a textbook example of having done exactly what you should do when you do not wish to be bound by the T&Cs in a private car park. Of course none of that mattered to the spivs you represent but do you really want to put such a useless case in front of a judge? To be fair, your clients are very useful members of the human race - as comedians.  How I loved the page turner of their antics at The Citrus Building in Bournemouth.  It was chuckle after chuckle reading about them, letter after letter, month after month, insisting they were legally in the right, even through someone who had done just the first day of a GCSE law course could have told them they weren't.  Until the denouement - BOOM - an absolute hammering in court.  In fact - SLAM, BANG - managing to lose twice against the same motorist for the same car park in front of two different judges. Your client can either drop their foolishness now or get yet another tolchocking* in court where I will go for an unreasonable costs order under CPR 27.14(2)(g) and spend the dosh on a nice summer holiday, while every day laughing at your clients' expense. I look forward to your deafening silence. COPIED TO COUNTRYWIDE PARKING MANAGEMENT LTD   *  This word is used under licence from Brassnecked
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after spliting with my partner of ten years i was forced into recieving benefits, then to top things off, my son who was around two years at the time was becoming more and more "dificult" he was eventually diagnosed with autism.

left with bills in my name i couldnt afford to pay back and having to care for my son who still isnt in school full time and goes into year one next year, i hav not been in a very good financial position to say the least! spiraling bank charges over the last couple of years has made things from bad to worse. after seeing this site i have now started to reclaim the charges incured on two accounts.

 

after numerous phone calls requesting breakdowns of charges and lists of charges ive have sent the dpa letter on the 7th of july to my local branch recorded delivery.

i was told early on this week that the statements would take around ten days to arrive now that i have given autherisation (again) to debit my accounts the £5 charge.

i was just told this morning after chasing up on the phone that the business centre have no record of the dpa letter and only have a request by phone recorded, they also told me that due to great media attention about unfair charges they have a huge backlog statement requests and it could take upto six weeks for them to send me mine from the phone request i made.

 

i can see this is going to be a bit of a tussel between myself and them!

 

any advice greatly appreciated! i'm a little anxcious now:rolleyes:

prelim letter sent acc#1 july31st

total £1121

 

prelim letter sent acc#2 august 2nd

total £1898

 

LBA letter sent august 18th

 

MCOL filed 18th sept

Issued 19th sept

Acknowledged 20th sept

22nd sept Letter recieved from halifax full reimbursment in next 5 working days!

 

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Hi Woozie

First off DON'T panic, 6weeks is what they are allowed anyway, so thats no problem.

What I would suggest is that you check to see if they have taken the money for DPA payment form your account and if not then tell them you will send a cheque instead, it might take a touch longer but don't worry.

If they have taken it then the count down to receiving your statements has begun but only give them the 40 days and no more.

Keep us posted

All the best.:oops:

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Sent Data Protection Act to Halifax 13.6.06

Daughters Data Protection Act sent to NatWest 5.6.06

Natwest sent statements on 24.6.06 Daughter owed £204.00 Preliminary ready to go.

Halifax sent my statements today(26.6.06) Owe me £1702.00

Preliminary sent on 27. 6.06.

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just got off the phone (for the third time today) to halifax and i'm told my statements have been ordered, tho my accounts have not been debited as yet, apparently once theyre sent out on monday then the accounts will be debited.

i'll ring back on monday and see if theyre true to their word. though i have to admit i have little faith in them after all this!

 

thanks strude, panic button is on hold for now :D

prelim letter sent acc#1 july31st

total £1121

 

prelim letter sent acc#2 august 2nd

total £1898

 

LBA letter sent august 18th

 

MCOL filed 18th sept

Issued 19th sept

Acknowledged 20th sept

22nd sept Letter recieved from halifax full reimbursment in next 5 working days!

 

:p@ halifax

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thanks saxon i'm flollowing yoour case intently!

 

i revieved my statements finally on the 27th of june, but only for one of the accounts and discovered after ringing a number of times that my other account had insufficiant funds to debit the five pounds! i found this quite humourous as the halifax are usually happy to charge me no matter what my balance! i also found the business centres number on this site and rang them, they were quite surprised i had obtained this number and immediatly debited my other account and have ordered the statements.

 

so on the first account charges totaled £1121, i'm sending the next letter with a schedule of charged for this account today.

as soon as i get the next lot of statements i'll be away with the second account, i am wondering however, if it gets as far as court, will it just be one claim i'm making does anyone know?

 

 

ps please excuse my poor forum skills!!:rolleyes:

prelim letter sent acc#1 july31st

total £1121

 

prelim letter sent acc#2 august 2nd

total £1898

 

LBA letter sent august 18th

 

MCOL filed 18th sept

Issued 19th sept

Acknowledged 20th sept

22nd sept Letter recieved from halifax full reimbursment in next 5 working days!

 

:p@ halifax

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quick update, i'm feeling very positive now about the whole senario, thanks all! i will be donating to this site once ive had my money returned! i think i hav the sig sorted too yippee hehe forum phobia is also being quashed!:grin:

prelim letter sent acc#1 july31st

total £1121

 

prelim letter sent acc#2 august 2nd

total £1898

 

LBA letter sent august 18th

 

MCOL filed 18th sept

Issued 19th sept

Acknowledged 20th sept

22nd sept Letter recieved from halifax full reimbursment in next 5 working days!

 

:p@ halifax

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hi all, update...

 

i had a phone call from someone at halifax offering me six months of charges back on one of my accounts which totalled £130, i said i would accept this offer as a goodwill gesture but not as a final settlement and was advised i would have to go to court to retrieve the charges, which i said i would do gladly.

 

i discovered this morning that the halifax have put a stop on two of my accounts because i am over my limit on one account, which i am begrudged to pay as i truely believe they owe me money! after speeking to someone at collections, i was left frustrated and shocked, he asked me to prove to him that these charges were not in accordance with uk law and i replied i dont have the details in front of me sorry, but can you prove to me that the halifax are losing £39 when i fail a standing order etc? at which point he told me i had commited fraud and put a stop on my daughters savings account. i have logged a complaint with the halifax about this man who has in effect accused me of being a criminal and i've demanded a written appology. i'm off today to open another account with someone who's charges are not dispreportionate and who's emplyees are not so spiteful and rude. any pointers? someone told me nationwides charges are only twelve pounds.

prelim letter sent acc#1 july31st

total £1121

 

prelim letter sent acc#2 august 2nd

total £1898

 

LBA letter sent august 18th

 

MCOL filed 18th sept

Issued 19th sept

Acknowledged 20th sept

22nd sept Letter recieved from halifax full reimbursment in next 5 working days!

 

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Hello again Woozie, again chin up.

 

I went to the nat west, they are really friendly with me. Though I haven't checked out their charges, not planning on getting any,

 

Did you get the person's name who accused you of fraud?

Can you find out if the conversation was taped?

How old is your daughter?

Could she threaten them with legal action, as obviously she's not you.

 

On a brighter note your nearly finished with them, though I think you'll beat me, cos the fee for court is going to take me a couple of weeks.

 

Take care, think positive, you're nearly there, you WILL wipe the smug smile of their face.

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heya saxon, my daughter is nine! so it is a joint account but the only money that goes into her account is child benefit! and i did get his name.

after speeking to someone in customer relations later on, i was informed they had lifted the block on her account, they became evasive when asked why it was lifted i suspect it should never have been blocked in the first place, i'm sure theyre legaly entitled to do so but morally speeking its just shocking behaviour.

i also spoke to another lass in collections in the afternoon who was quite intimidating, i know i shouldnt enter into dialog with these people about things but its quite hard when they ask you for money you owe them and they owe you so much more, there are a few threads on this forum which suggest people who work for the banks are generaly in agreement with the uprising against illegal penaties, but in my experience yesterday, the collections department are all for them.

 

 

i'm a little worried about one thing though, i recieved one of the old standard letters acknowledging my "complaint" and it says they recieved this complaint on the 16th, i sent it on the 2nd, i have now sent my LBA and i'm worried that it should be 14 days after they recieve it, it was sent first class recorded delivery:|

 

got a new account opened with the nationwide now who were also very polite!

 

i shall be doing the whole moneyclaim thing on friday 1st of september, so spreadsheets are being closely examined now! if i go first saxon then maybe i can spur you on in return hun:)

prelim letter sent acc#1 july31st

total £1121

 

prelim letter sent acc#2 august 2nd

total £1898

 

LBA letter sent august 18th

 

MCOL filed 18th sept

Issued 19th sept

Acknowledged 20th sept

22nd sept Letter recieved from halifax full reimbursment in next 5 working days!

 

:p@ halifax

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good luck woozie, you go girl :)

"Banks are people that will lend you an umbrella when it's sunny, but demand it back the minute it starts raining"

 

Brad v Halifax

22/08/06 - Preliminary Letter sent requesting full repayment of charges

06/09/06 - LBA sent to bank

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Hi Woozie, did you check with track and trace online for when it was delivered?

 

I did but have since `lost' 2 recorded since so the last one to Halifax the LBA went special delivery. Couldn't really afford it but thought got to be sure they get it, and they did, no probs.

 

I have since spoken to a DCA, and they recieved the recorded letter the day after posting, it still hasn't been delivered according to royal mail.

 

So tempted to claim from royal mail for lost post, and claim the fee back because I was paying for a signiture and didn't get one.

 

Hehe 11 days and counting for you, we are all with you.

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yeah ive tracked n traced all of the letters now, all sent recorded delivery, and NONE of them have been trackable, the first of which was sent seven weeks back! i'm disgusted with royal mail now and i AM going to get compensated for these letters, allbeit a bunch of stamps! i will from now on use the special delivery service and advise anyone reading this not to use the royal mails recorded delivery, its a farce.

 

i just hope i havnt sent the LBA letter too soon after the reciept of the prelim :-|

prelim letter sent acc#1 july31st

total £1121

 

prelim letter sent acc#2 august 2nd

total £1898

 

LBA letter sent august 18th

 

MCOL filed 18th sept

Issued 19th sept

Acknowledged 20th sept

22nd sept Letter recieved from halifax full reimbursment in next 5 working days!

 

:p@ halifax

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Keep going,

 

'Nil illigitimus carborundum' as the saying goes.

 

took me just over 3 months but got the CCJ for the lot.

almost praying for them to default on payment so I could send in the baliffs! :rolleyes:

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:DSmile! it will worry 'em to death!

 

Ian.bjj

 

Any and all advice & opinions are offered informally, without prejudice & without liability. Always seek advice of a qualified insured professional if you have any doubts.

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love that saying ian!!!

 

right ive given the ahems a little more time and ive decided to be brave and do this through my local court as oposed to mcol!

 

i'm wondering if i calculate the two accounts interest together? do i just merge the two totals into one claim now?

maybe i'm over polite, bumping threads seems a wee bit rude to me, but i need some advice here so i'm gonna bump til i get some!!!:-| TY

prelim letter sent acc#1 july31st

total £1121

 

prelim letter sent acc#2 august 2nd

total £1898

 

LBA letter sent august 18th

 

MCOL filed 18th sept

Issued 19th sept

Acknowledged 20th sept

22nd sept Letter recieved from halifax full reimbursment in next 5 working days!

 

:p@ halifax

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right ive given the ahems a little more time and ive decided to be brave and do this through my local court as oposed to mcol!

 

i'm wondering if i calculate the two accounts interest together? do i just merge the two totals into one claim now?

maybe i'm over polite, bumping threads seems a wee bit rude to me, but i need some advice here so i'm gonna bump til i get some!!!:-| TY

 

Hi ho onward and upward

 

I would ask your local court if you can issue a combined claim for the two accounts, you should be able to. If you can it will save one court fee (£120) However if you do, you need to be careful to itemise each part seperately in your Particular of Claim. The Library has an excellent suggest POC that you can use as a 'master'. Once you have issued the claim and applied for Interest (@ 8%) this is claimed 'ON A DAILY BASIS' in two parts.

 

first on the date of issue of the N1 in the format:-

 

interest at 8%pa pursuant to County Court Act From xx/xx/xx [maximum 6 years ago] to [date of issue of N1]... xxxx days @ £y.yy per day, total £zzz.zz,

 

Then add

 

plus further interest at £y.yy per day until judgement.

 

You can also request:-

 

Plus such other costs and damages as this honourable court sees fit and just

 

The library again has a brilliant little XL template that will calculate all your interest for you. not only the 8% court interest, but also just how much the little :rolleyes: 's have charged you during the last 6 years, which you also claim for.

 

ps latest here the :rolleyes:'s have defaulted on the judgement! and charged me a total of £134.00 for the privaledge! No more mr nice guy... Baliffs request went in this afternoon and a new CC Claim to be issued next week.

 

Wonder if the press will get to hear about it and be there when they go in? :evil:

:DSmile! it will worry 'em to death!

 

Ian.bjj

 

Any and all advice & opinions are offered informally, without prejudice & without liability. Always seek advice of a qualified insured professional if you have any doubts.

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thanks for all you guys advice and support, today i have filed a claim with MCOL, i just pluralled words and gave extra dates etc. chickened out on the loacal court :-|

hopefully i havent confused anything! i'll keep you all posted!

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total £1121

 

prelim letter sent acc#2 august 2nd

total £1898

 

LBA letter sent august 18th

 

MCOL filed 18th sept

Issued 19th sept

Acknowledged 20th sept

22nd sept Letter recieved from halifax full reimbursment in next 5 working days!

 

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claims been issued now :) how do i pm a mod? any clues?!

prelim letter sent acc#1 july31st

total £1121

 

prelim letter sent acc#2 august 2nd

total £1898

 

LBA letter sent august 18th

 

MCOL filed 18th sept

Issued 19th sept

Acknowledged 20th sept

22nd sept Letter recieved from halifax full reimbursment in next 5 working days!

 

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oops done it already!

prelim letter sent acc#1 july31st

total £1121

 

prelim letter sent acc#2 august 2nd

total £1898

 

LBA letter sent august 18th

 

MCOL filed 18th sept

Issued 19th sept

Acknowledged 20th sept

22nd sept Letter recieved from halifax full reimbursment in next 5 working days!

 

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my fingers are sore from being permenantly crossed lol, thank you so much for your words of encouragement, it really has kept my spirits and confidence up!

 

my claim was acknowledged today, quicker than i imagined, i guess you just have to think of the worst case senario to be safe hey! :D

prelim letter sent acc#1 july31st

total £1121

 

prelim letter sent acc#2 august 2nd

total £1898

 

LBA letter sent august 18th

 

MCOL filed 18th sept

Issued 19th sept

Acknowledged 20th sept

22nd sept Letter recieved from halifax full reimbursment in next 5 working days!

 

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Uncross those fingers so you can open the booze.lololol

HALIFAX CURRENT ACCOUNT SETTLED IN FULL 9/9/06.

 

N1 form completed 05-06-07,LBA sent 14-05-07,2nd go!Prelim sent 24/04/07

 

Halifax Visa 1.Paid in full

Halifax Classic.Paid in full.

 

LBA sent 14-05-07,GMAC prelim sent 24/04/07

 

Data Protection Act for halifax mortgage 16/09/06.

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