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    • I've had a quick (well, quick for a thread of this length),  read of this thread and to be honest I'm struggling to make heads nor tails of the actual crux of the issue here. You seem awfully convinced that whatever is going on is worth the fight and the odds are in your favour but with how the thread has gone it seems that one trail goes cold so you simply move on to another in an attempt to delay the inevitable. All it does is end up digging holes and confusing others and yourself which means any advice given to you is completely pointless. I note that for the life of this thread there has not been any documentation or correspondence uploaded for people to have a look. Have you got any that you'd be willing to redact and upload for members to assist you? Right now, it seems people are shooting out advice while being in the dark because it's starting to become very difficult for people who weren't here at the start of this (including myself) to follow along. Right now, this whole thread is just hypothetical "He said, she said" and is going nowhere fast. Nothing more than basic advice can be given which, as you've sought out some legal advice, is likely not sufficient to actually come to any sort of conclusion. I, personally, am starting to agree with others that it may be best to consider bankruptcy and put the matter behind you.  
    • Thanks for coming back to us. There are no guarantees - but remember that so far MET have not had the guts to put even a single case before a judge.  Not once. Yours is one of seven court cases. Three ongoing like yours. In two MET bottled it as Witness Statement stage approached. In one the allocating judge decided their Particulars of Claim were rubbish and threw the case in the bin. Just the one victory by MET by default when the motorist stupidly didn't file a defence. So there is every chance that MET will throw in the towel in your case too if you stand firm. Please keep us informed of what is happening. Regarding being abroad, that is no reason for things going wrong, you can request an on-line hearing and we've had several cases where the PPC gave up when the motorist moved abroad. But please keep us in the loop.
    • No, I think you're fine with the exhibits you've prepared. Exhibit 1 - photos Exhibit 2 - para 107 of Beavis Exhibit 3 - CPR request Exhibit 4 - Excel v Wilkinson
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      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
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Hi

 

Just noticed that this thread has been moved and made into a sticky.

 

Although I don't wish to detract from lancasterchelseas' great win (congratulations again:D), I do think it may be a bit misleading for anyone coming to the business claims forum.... as they may think there has actually only been 1 business account claim win ?

 

Would it be possible for someone to create a sticky that can be used as a catalogue of business account wins?

 

If someone could make such a sticky, I would be happy to help compile a list of such wins by trawling through some of the business account threads and adding any wins I come across to the list.

 

 

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If you will do that PM I (or someone else will stickie it)

 

Would be happy to start one.

 

You may have to wait a little bit though, (due to time of year), but once i've got it mostly done I'll let you know.

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ATM, no, except for one or two which have very specific elements (eg limitatin issues).

 

The problem is that business accounts have never been subject to the Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999 but have relied solely on penalty arguments. In the current test case, the judge has ruled that bank charges cannot be regarded as penalties and this has left business claims with no legal basis (although we are working on another tack which we believe does give a legal basis for business claims. It is not tested yet, though).

 

 

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ATM, no, except for one or two which have very specific elements (eg limitatin issues).

 

The problem is that business accounts have never been subject to the Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999 but have relied solely on penalty arguments. In the current test case, the judge has ruled that bank charges cannot be regarded as penalties and this has left business claims with no legal basis (although we are working on another tack which we believe does give a legal basis for business claims. It is not tested yet, though).

 

Steven

 

I note this post is about 1 year old - anything further to report re panalties argument in Business Accounts?

 

BD

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