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sacked on monday should i put it on my cv


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Hi folks i was sacked on monday 14th but are taking my previous employer to a court for constructive dismissal but in the mean time i will need to find a new job dont know what to do.

Should i write sacked for gross misconduct or not or leave it blank and can they give me a bad reference as before this my work history was spotless and finding a job is hard enough with out this on my cv.

But as im innocent i feel i have to tell them the truth

 

Please help regards al

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Hi

How long did you work for them?

 

Many potential employers don't like the fact workers stand up for themselves and know their rights and take an ET action.

 

Harsh but a reality. Especially in menial type jobs.

 

Give us some more info to help you get around this problem.

 

btw Monday was the 13th! Hope you have this correct in your legal calculations for time limits!

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Why on earth would you want to put anything at all on your CV, until the 'court' (I presume you mean ET?) has reached a decision?

 

By your own admission you are bringing a claim for constructive dismissal, the very essence of which must surely be, that it was the actions of your employer that left you with no option but to resign in the face of their fundamental breach of contract.

 

Should you win your claim, then your were not, '...sacked for gross misconduct...', but quite legally resigned in reaction to their breach.

 

Thus you would not be misleading anyone by not putting this fact (your employer's allegation) on your CV

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I think thats somewhat black and white elche.

 

At the current time, the OP HAS been sacked for gross misconduct. Until such a time that ET overturn this decision, this is the case.

 

In addition, its going to look mighty strange on his CV to put down his prior employer, and not put them as a reference. Also, what does he say when he is asked the inevitable question at interview "Why did you leave your last job"? Any answer other than that he was dismissed for GM is a lie....

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I take your point MR Shed but I feel that at most you should tell a new employer, if you must tell them anything at all, is that the reason for leaving the old job, is subject to litigation and at this stage it would be premature and inappropriate to comment further.

 

And in addition no-one independent has as yet (I presume) examined the decision of the employer. Hence, whilst the employee may have been dismissed for GM it doesn't mean this dismissal had any legal basis. Surely in contentious dismissals the employee can rightly put forward his version, until such time as a Tribunal reaches an opinion.

 

Surely this is better than just saying, ' I was dismissed for GM'?

 

But in fairness the OP doesn't have much in the way of detail around what happened, so i wouldn't wish to speculate further.

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I agree - its not a straightforward situation.

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Hi Guys,

 

As a recruiter I can agree with all that this is a tough, yet suprisingly common problem.

 

I interview 3-4 people a day, and the advise I would give (just my opinion) is don't mention this on your CV, but be as open and honest as possible....in fact seek to bring it up at interview.

 

As a CV, you are only a piece of paper on an employers desk, which they will skim read at best. However, face to face, you are a real person, with a character and an opportunity to demonstrate your capability.

 

When screening CV's I would probably bin any with dismissal on them but would and have employ people who were open and honest in the interview, even if they were at fault. I find many employers share my views.

 

For me, if someone has tried to hide the fact they were dismissed and were dis-honest, that would be game over for me.

 

Tough one, but I hope this helps.

I'm not a legal expert. Anything I offer is my opinion based on my personal experience, so please get professional, legal advise before taking any action.

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When screening CV's I would probably bin any with dismissal on them but would and have employ people who were open and honest in the interview, even if they were at fault. I find many employers share my views.

 

Since no one else has brought it up, can I just say I don't understand this. Why bin the CVs if you want to reward honesty?

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