Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

    • Thank you honeybee if you would my head is mashed now. You guys our savers.  H
    • You can edit the answers to be in red or would you like me to do it? HB
    • Apologies dx100uk  I did not put the answers in red  Thank you all for your patience. H
    • Which Court have you received the claim from ? Northampton  Name of the Claimant ? Overdales solicitors  How many defendant's  joint or self ?  Self Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to.  13 may 2024 What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? the claim is for the sum of £6163.61due by the defendant under an agreement regulated by the consumer credit act 1974 for hsbc uk bank plc. Account 4546384809766042. The defendant faild to maintain contractual payments required by the agreement and a default notice was served under s 87(1)  of the consumer credit act 1974 which as not been compiled with. The dbt was legally assigned to the Claimant on 23/08/23, notice on which as been given to the defendant.  The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the county courts act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of issue of these proceedings in the sum of £117.53 the Claimant claims the sum of £6281.14. Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ?   Not to my knowledge. Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred?  No Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ?  Online but it was for a smaller amount they kept on increasing this with me asking Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim.  It was assigned to a debt collection agency  Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? yes  Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor?  Yes I also made offers to pay original creditor a smaller amount but was not replied to Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ?  No Why did you cease payments? I was made redundant and got a less paid job I also spent some time on furlough during covid and spent some 3 months on ssp off work. What was the date of your last payment?  May 2021 Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes at the time I communicated with all my creditor's that I was running out of funds to pay the original agreements once my redundancy money ran out that was when my accounts defaulted. I then wrote to all my creditor's with pro rata offers of payments but debt collectors took over the accounts.
  • Recommended Topics

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like
  • Recommended Topics

Moneypenny v Abbey


moneypenny
style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 1903 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 67
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

I'm very confused about this, Karne. Having read your threads. By filling in the AQ, the N244 and eventually completing yet another N1, i don't see how the solicitors/court will see that I;m amending my claim exactly. As Abbey haven't acknowledged my request for bank statements dated 15 March 2006 I'm not able to give any estimate. I feel like something's missing. Just trying to really understand what I'm doing...hope you understand.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I think that there's a misunderstanding here. From the very beginning I didn't have any bank statements and as a result couldn't claim any figure. I wish I had, but this isn't the case. Sorry for the confusion.

Link to post
Share on other sites

hi there moneypenny,

hope you dont mind me budging in on your thread? but i am a bit confused as to what exactly is going on with your claim.

 

it seems very complicated and you must be nervous about it all ive not come accross this yet so your thread could help people in the future?

hope everything goes well anyway for you.

 

could you answer a few questions regarding your claim for me so i know what is happening with you,

 

 

1)what part are you up to with your claim?

2) have you got to re write the n1 ?

3) id so why have you got to re do it?

4) is this because it is an unknown amount?

5) or are you now changing from unknown to estimated?

6)is there a difference between unknown and estimated when it comes down to it?

7) have you got ANY statements at all that you can estimate from ?

8) have you sent a letter to the solicitors saying that the reason you have no info is because abbey havent sent you your statements?

9) have you gone through the courts to enforce they comply with the dpa? or is this something that you are going to do?

10) have you got onto the ombudsman or who ever it is that you complain to? (cant remember!)

 

hope you have a few mins to answer.

 

good luck lisaxx

if i have helped you at all click please the scales on top right!

 

ABBEY

11/4 S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) SENT OFF

1/6 LBA SENT

22/7 LETTER SENT REQUESTING THEM TO REFUND CHARGES

15/7 STATEMENTS RECEIVED (ALL 6 YEARS WORTH)

20/7 CLAIM ISSUES IN OLDHAM COUNTY COURT.

8/8 CLAIM ACKNOWLEDGED GIVING THEM TILL 21/8.......

SETTLED IN FULL!!!!!!!

 

T MOBILE i won!

16/6 Data Protection Act SENT OFF

 

5/8 t mobile have failed to comply with the Data Protection Act/S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) reques ....BRING IT ON BABY!!

7/8 LBE SENT GIVING THEM 7 DAYS TO COUGH UP MY CASH

7/9 FULL REFUND BEEN SENT!!

Link to post
Share on other sites

To clarify things.... you've not received ANY statements - you completed a non-compliance letter giving 7 days notice of court action and yet took no action, but instead started a money claim even though you have no record of the charges for which you would like a refund?

 

The Particulars of Claim were worded in such a way that you now need an amendment and it's already at the AQ stage?

 

Why didn't you take court action to force them to comply with the S-A-R?

..

.

 

Opinions given herein are made informally by myself as a lay-person in good faith based on personal experience. For legal advice, you must always consult a registered and insured lawyer.

 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks Karne. Have just completed the N1 form. Just a thought before I send it off. Should I not mention that I've done everything possible to obtain my bank statements or obtain a full and detailed list of my charges and that the Defendant has not complied at all with my request. Hence the fact that this is unspecified.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes - you need to state that they have not complied with a valid SAR under the Data Protection Act and that, if they do now comply, you will amend your claim total accordingly and inform the court.

..

.

 

Opinions given herein are made informally by myself as a lay-person in good faith based on personal experience. For legal advice, you must always consult a registered and insured lawyer.

 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

you said that you had to send this off today have you done so yet??

 

hope things are ok

lisaxx

if i have helped you at all click please the scales on top right!

 

ABBEY

11/4 S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) SENT OFF

1/6 LBA SENT

22/7 LETTER SENT REQUESTING THEM TO REFUND CHARGES

15/7 STATEMENTS RECEIVED (ALL 6 YEARS WORTH)

20/7 CLAIM ISSUES IN OLDHAM COUNTY COURT.

8/8 CLAIM ACKNOWLEDGED GIVING THEM TILL 21/8.......

SETTLED IN FULL!!!!!!!

 

T MOBILE i won!

16/6 Data Protection Act SENT OFF

 

5/8 t mobile have failed to comply with the Data Protection Act/S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) reques ....BRING IT ON BABY!!

7/8 LBE SENT GIVING THEM 7 DAYS TO COUGH UP MY CASH

7/9 FULL REFUND BEEN SENT!!

Link to post
Share on other sites

thank god you got the info in time i know how worried about it all you were

 

take care mate lisaxx

if i have helped you at all click please the scales on top right!

 

ABBEY

11/4 S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) SENT OFF

1/6 LBA SENT

22/7 LETTER SENT REQUESTING THEM TO REFUND CHARGES

15/7 STATEMENTS RECEIVED (ALL 6 YEARS WORTH)

20/7 CLAIM ISSUES IN OLDHAM COUNTY COURT.

8/8 CLAIM ACKNOWLEDGED GIVING THEM TILL 21/8.......

SETTLED IN FULL!!!!!!!

 

T MOBILE i won!

16/6 Data Protection Act SENT OFF

 

5/8 t mobile have failed to comply with the Data Protection Act/S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) reques ....BRING IT ON BABY!!

7/8 LBE SENT GIVING THEM 7 DAYS TO COUGH UP MY CASH

7/9 FULL REFUND BEEN SENT!!

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 1 month later...

Just got a letter from the Court Office stating "Notice of Change of Solicitor".

"DLA Piper Rudnick Gray Cary UK LLP, Princess Exchange Princes Square Leeds has ceased to act for me and I shall now be acting in person. Is this never ending or what?

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

Finally got a letter from the court:

 

"Thank you for your application and "new claim form which has been referred to the District Judge along with the file.

 

Her comments are as follows:

 

"It is not necessary to file a further Claim Form. Please provide separate particulars of claim within 14 days and state whether these are amended or in substition.

 

Please also state if you accept that the costs of an amended defence will be paid by yourself".

 

Just for good orders sake, I have copied all my documentation and added these papers to the new claim, one copy to the court, one copy to DLA Piper solicitors and one copy for me.

 

Just want to know basically if I need to do anything as such?

Link to post
Share on other sites

Finally got a letter from the court:

 

"Thank you for your application and "new claim form which has been referred to the District Judge along with the file.

 

Her comments are as follows:

 

"It is not necessary to file a further Claim Form. Please provide separate particulars of claim within 14 days and state whether these are amended or in substition. i dont understand what this means? why is it not necessary?

 

Please also state if you accept that the costs of an amended defence will be paid by yourself". when you amend something you have to pay for it and it can not be claimed back. so why is it asking if you accept the costs of an amendment?

 

Just for good orders sake, I have copied all my documentation and added these papers to the new claim, one copy to the court, one copy to DLA Piper solicitors and one copy for me.

 

Just want to know basically if I need to do anything as such?

i hope someone comes along to help you here as i dont think i can understand this...! hope you are ok and get it sorted out:)

if i have helped you at all click please the scales on top right!

 

ABBEY

11/4 S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) SENT OFF

1/6 LBA SENT

22/7 LETTER SENT REQUESTING THEM TO REFUND CHARGES

15/7 STATEMENTS RECEIVED (ALL 6 YEARS WORTH)

20/7 CLAIM ISSUES IN OLDHAM COUNTY COURT.

8/8 CLAIM ACKNOWLEDGED GIVING THEM TILL 21/8.......

SETTLED IN FULL!!!!!!!

 

T MOBILE i won!

16/6 Data Protection Act SENT OFF

 

5/8 t mobile have failed to comply with the Data Protection Act/S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) reques ....BRING IT ON BABY!!

7/8 LBE SENT GIVING THEM 7 DAYS TO COUGH UP MY CASH

7/9 FULL REFUND BEEN SENT!!

Link to post
Share on other sites

is anyone around to help moneypenny out???

if i have helped you at all click please the scales on top right!

 

ABBEY

11/4 S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) SENT OFF

1/6 LBA SENT

22/7 LETTER SENT REQUESTING THEM TO REFUND CHARGES

15/7 STATEMENTS RECEIVED (ALL 6 YEARS WORTH)

20/7 CLAIM ISSUES IN OLDHAM COUNTY COURT.

8/8 CLAIM ACKNOWLEDGED GIVING THEM TILL 21/8.......

SETTLED IN FULL!!!!!!!

 

T MOBILE i won!

16/6 Data Protection Act SENT OFF

 

5/8 t mobile have failed to comply with the Data Protection Act/S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) reques ....BRING IT ON BABY!!

7/8 LBE SENT GIVING THEM 7 DAYS TO COUGH UP MY CASH

7/9 FULL REFUND BEEN SENT!!

Link to post
Share on other sites

Karnevil, I've sent a letter to the court stating that my last N1 form is the one to be and not the first one. For good orders sake, I've enclosed a copy of the correct N1 form for their reference. I have not mentioned anything about payment.

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 3 weeks later...

think around a few hundred or thousand!!

 

their offices must be hot at the moment!

if i have helped you at all click please the scales on top right!

 

ABBEY

11/4 S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) SENT OFF

1/6 LBA SENT

22/7 LETTER SENT REQUESTING THEM TO REFUND CHARGES

15/7 STATEMENTS RECEIVED (ALL 6 YEARS WORTH)

20/7 CLAIM ISSUES IN OLDHAM COUNTY COURT.

8/8 CLAIM ACKNOWLEDGED GIVING THEM TILL 21/8.......

SETTLED IN FULL!!!!!!!

 

T MOBILE i won!

16/6 Data Protection Act SENT OFF

 

5/8 t mobile have failed to comply with the Data Protection Act/S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) reques ....BRING IT ON BABY!!

7/8 LBE SENT GIVING THEM 7 DAYS TO COUGH UP MY CASH

7/9 FULL REFUND BEEN SENT!!

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 1 year later...

Not to my knowledge or not that I've heard of from the Court. I did receive a letter from Abbey dated 7 August 2007 stating pending the outcome of the test case with the Office of Fair Trading in relation to unauthorised overdraft bank charges, Abbey will ask the County Courts to stay all claims relating to unauthorised overdraft bank charges. Abbey also assures me that they have kept a record of my legal claim.

Link to post
Share on other sites

style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 1903 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...