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    • Honestly you are all amazing on this site, thank you so much for your help and time. ill keep an eye out and only return when i receive a claim letter for sure also, i updated my address with amex and tsb before i even missed payments. the initial address was my family home but i dont reside there. to avoid a bombardment of letters there i have now updated my address, will they send all threats etc to the new address? Or old address?   do you reccomend i send both tsb and amex my update in address via a letter?
    • Your point 4 deals with that and puts them to strict proof .....but realistically they are not in a position to state that within their particulars they were not the creditor at the time of default but naturally assume the OC would have...so always worth challenging and if you get a DJ who knows his onions on the day may ask for further evidence from the OC internal accounts system. 
    • I see, shame, I think if a claim is 'someone was served' then proof of that should be mandatory. Appreciate your input into the WS whenever you get chance, thanks in advance
    • Paper trail off the original creditor often confirms the default and issue of a notice...not having or being able to disclose the actual copy or being able to produce a copy less so. Creditors are not compelled to keep copies of the actual default notice so you will in most cases get a reconstituted version but must contain accurate figures/dates/format.     .    
    • Including Default Notice Andy? Ok, I think this is the best I can do.. it all makes sense with references to their WS. They have included exhibits that dates don't match the WS about them, small but still.. if you're going to reference letters giving dates, then the exhibits should be correct, no? I know I redacted them too much, but one of the dates differs to the WS by a few months. IN THE ******** County Court Claim No. [***] BETWEEN: LC Asset 2 S.A.R.L CLAIMANT AND [***] DEFENDANT ************ _________________________ ________ WITNESS STATEMENT OF [***] _________________________ ________ I, [***], being the Defendant in this case will state as follows; I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in this claim. 1. I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much-reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already written off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimant’s witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights. This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information). The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 2. The Claim relates to an alleged Credit Card agreement between the Defendant and Bank of Scotland plc. Save insofar of any admittance it is accepted that the Defendant has had contractual agreements with Bank of Scotland plc in the past, the Defendant is unaware as to what alleged debt the Claimant refers. 3. The Defendant requested a copy of the CCA on the 24/12/2022 along with the standard fee of £1.00 postal order, to which the defendant received a reply from the Claimant dated 06/02/2023. To this date, the Claimant has failed to disclose a valid agreement and proof as per their claim that this is enforceable, that Default Notice and Notice of Assignment were sent to and received by the Defendant, on which their claim relies. The Claimant is put to strict proof to verify and confirm that the exhibit *** is a true copy of the agreement and are the true Terms and Conditions as issued at the time of inception of the online application and execution of the agreement. 4. Point 3 is noted. The Claimant pleads that a default notice has been served upon the defendant as evidenced by Exhibit [***]. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 5. Point 6 is noted and disputed. The Defendant cannot recall ever having received the notice of assignment as evidenced in the exhibit marked ***. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 6. Point 11 is noted and disputed. See 3. 7. Point 12 is noted, the Defendant doesn’t recall receiving contact where documentation is provided as per the Claimants obligations under CCA. In addition, the Claimant pleads letters were sent on dates given, yet those are not the letters evidenced in their exhibits *** 8. Point 13 is noted and denied. Claimant is put to strict proof to prove allegations. 9. The Claimant did not provide a true copy of the CCA in response to the Defendants request of 24/12/2022. The Claimant further claims that the documents are sufficient to pursue a Judgement and are therefore copies of original documents in their possession. Conclusion 10. Without the Claimant providing a valid true copy of the executed Credit agreement that complies with the CCA, the Claimant has no grounds on which to enforce this alleged debt. 11. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. On receipt of this claim I could not recall the precise details of the agreement or any debt and sought clarity from the claimant by way of a Section 78 request. The Claimant failed to comply. I can only assume as this was due to the Claimant not having any enforceable documentation and issuing a claim in hope of an undefended default judgment.   Statement of Truth I, ********, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in it’s truth. Signed: _________________________ _______ Dated: _____________________
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Hi Lisa,

 

You could just leave it as you have already replied to their letter.

 

Look at it this way, if they sent out their letter on the 24th and they received yours on the 25th, they have then had a reply, though they wouldn`t be expecting a reply that though, it just means your on the ball and they aren`t :p.

 

 

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just to let you now mum received a letter today from capquest this how it goes.

 

Dear Mrs *******

 

thank you for your recent correspondence and confirm this account is now on hold.

 

An investigation into your complaint will be carried out in lin with our in-house procedure and as soon as we have the results of our findings, a Quality and Assurance Officer we will be in contact with you.

 

In the meantime, please find Complaints Handling Leaflet for the information.

 

Yours Sincerely

 

******

 

Complaints department

Capquest debt recovery ltd

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Hi Lisa,

 

A quality and assurance officer? :confused: Did you order a washer or toaster or something from them? :p

 

Tell them not to bother contacting you unless they have something constructive and interesting to say.

 

 

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or maybe u ordered a pizza

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Please remember the only stupid question is the one you dont ask so dont worry about asking the stupid questions.

 

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Hi Lisa,

 

A quality and assurance officer? :confused: Did you order a washer or toaster or something from them? :p

 

Tell them not to bother contacting you unless they have something constructive and interesting to say.

 

 

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I know that what we thought what have they got to do with credit

lisa:lol:

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hi there all

 

just to let you know mum recieved a letter from capquest to say they have finished there investigation and they are sorry they did not know the account was in dispute and they have passed the account back to argos.

 

we will just sit and wait and see who they through at us next time

lisa

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Hi Lisa,

 

At least that will give your mum and yourself a short break from these maggots.

 

I thought it was too quiet around my end lately but we received a call on the answer machine today from BJ asking me to ring them back immediately and quote a case number, what a doyle!

 

 

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lol NP.

 

You should leave your own answerphone message to them.

 

Dont bother asking me to call u back as i would everything in writting. Your phone will self distruct in 30 seconds.

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Or something like `This is an answering machine, your message will not be recorded. If your call is urgent then please contact me in writing. I will then reply when I`ve finished mooseing our lass :p. If your still listening then you must be a moron with a an empty head, in which case you can fu........` End Of Message

 

 

 

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LOL NP.

 

i preffer the blunt and straight to the point ones like

 

f**% o&^ dont bother to leave a message as you will not be responded to. I have said everything in writing so i would advise u comply or i will inform the oft and trading standards. I also reserve the rite to take u to court for harrassement if u dont comply.

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Please remember the only stupid question is the one you dont ask so dont worry about asking the stupid questions.

 

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Then ya mum sends you a letter saying she tried calling but got a very odd message :confused:

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Mum does not ring the home phone only the companies have that number. Mum has my private mobile number.

 

One for business and one for private calls great and it only costs a small amount for the mobile as u only need to top it up once a year. even better there.

OFT debt collection guidance

 

Please remember the only stupid question is the one you dont ask so dont worry about asking the stupid questions.

 

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Hi Lisa,

 

What do you mean?

 

Do you have another thread going? If so, whats the link?

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Hi all

Well I cant believe after nearlly 1 and half years mum has got a letter regarding her argos account.

1st letter recieved on the 18 Dec from dlc

We hereby give notice that this debt has been assigned to hillesden securities ltd, trading as direct legal and collections(dlc)

This means argos card services ltd no longer own your account is now owed by dlc. All future payments and contact must be made with us.

We will start reporting against your credit file within 30 days of you receiving this letter.

You must let us have your proposals for payment of the outstanding balance by calling 0844 3358498 or by returning the attached insertion today.

 

Failure to respond to this letter may result in legal action

 

 

(Next letter to follow)

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next letter received on the 5 jan from dlc

 

You have failed to respond to our previous letter and the balance remains unpaid.

please telephone us immediately on ............ to discuss yor payments options which include \; A discounted lump sum in full and final settlemant,

or monthly payments over an agreed term

Failure to respond to this letter may result in legal action and additional costs may be added to your balance.

 

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next letter received on the 12january 2010

NOTICE OF DEBT RECOVERY

 

Dlc are specialist debt collections organisation. We have been instructed by our client to collect the outstanding balance on their behalf.

You should read this Notice carefully, follow the instructions and reply immedialty. If your details are incorrect or you have any queries contact our central recovery office on the above number.

Should you FAIL to reply to this notice by the date specified the action detailed below may be taken.

 

To avoid DLC taking further action, you must either:

Pay the debt in full or contat our recovery department

Failure to take above action by 19 january ( which we late cos thats today)

may result in the recovey via the following methods

instructions to solicitors to commence legal action, or a debt collector to visit and collect the debt personally.

Custmers can prevent this by contacting the above priority telephone number

 

Any help with tanks

Lisa

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Hi Lisa,

 

As you already know by now, a number of us have received exactly the same nonsense.

 

Just follow Fuzzybobble and I, using the CCA request with extra wording to cease and desist processing of our private data, and see what they come up with.

 

I honestly think a company wouldn`t sell on an account if they were 100% sure of their agreement.

 

I wish I was special at something, like these idiots :p

 

 

 

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Strange i was only wondering how you were the other day.

 

Personally i would follow NPs advice and see what happens.

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