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Just looked on CRS website - their news section is a hoot

 

October 2005 - CRS announce that over £100M of debt is now under management

 

August 2008 - CRS has now collected over £8M on behalf of its clients.

 

Even assuming no new business October 2005 to August 2008, that is only 8% debt repayment in just under 3 years, less than 3% a year. Not exactly a sparkling performance is it? No one should take these jokers seriously.

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Just looked on CRS website - their news section is a hoot

 

October 2005 - CRS announce that over £100M of debt is now under management

 

August 2008 - CRS has now collected over £8M on behalf of its clients.

 

Even assuming no new business October 2005 to August 2008, that is only 8% debt repayment in just under 3 years, less than 3% a year. Not exactly a sparkling performance is it? No one should take these jokers seriously.

 

i wish i had nothing to do but sit on my computer all day and look up debt collection agencys performances, you must lead a very exciting and fulfilled life my friend. obviously very rich running up bills and not paying them

 

you make me sick

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Instead of sending CRS a letter i thought it would be better if i spoke to them on the phone. So, I rung CRS and after 15 minutes debating i agreed reluctantly to pay the £25 for the proof and copy of the ticket.They faxed a copy over to me and to my amazement after several hours of digging through paperwork i came across an outstanding issued by BPM. I then checked the bank account to see if i had paid the ticket when it was first issued and unfortunately for me i hadn't paid it. When i phoned CRS and explained i had found the unpaid ticket they were very understanding (surprisingly!!) and even offered to reduce the debt by £20suggestion maybe if you do owe the money and are wanting to pay you ask for a reduction in the price Glad it didnt go to court! any problems I'm happy to help:)

 

Lamma - you are right as usual - its CRS, dug out the above quote from this very thread. If the post were genuine, you would have expected our Morris to be disgruntled at being stung for £100 or so. Not a bit of it, instead old Morris rushes to the defence of CRS when they are criticised.

 

Sorry to hear I make you sick Mo. What makes me sick is people who lie and cheat for a living - the above posting is hardly straight is it?

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said CPS instead of CRS - fixation?
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Lamma - you are right as usual - its CRS, dug out the above quote from this very thread. If the post were genuine, you would have expected our Morris to be disgruntled at being stung for £100 or so. Not a bit of it, instead old Morris rushes to the defence of CRS when they are criticised.

 

Sorry to hear I make you sick Mo. What makes me sick is people who lie and cheat for a living - the above posting is hardly straight is it?

 

no im just an average citizen, unlike yourself though i have a job and end up paying for you tossers to eat pot noodles and go on jeremy kyle

 

if someone owed you £100 am sure you'd be highly impressed if they came up with a load of reasons for not paying it.

 

enough said

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So, I must be a jobless, pot noodle eating, Jeremy Kyle loving tosser?

 

Well, if the cap fits?

 

Nobody did owe BPM any money and certainly not CRS when they bought the "debt" at 5 pence in the pound or whatever, it is a CON and, your poor opinion of me notwithstanding, I will continue to shout it from the rooftops.

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So, I must be a jobless, pot noodle eating, Jeremy Kyle loving tosser?

 

Well, if the cap fits?

 

Nobody did owe BPM any money and certainly not CRS when they bought the "debt" at 5 pence in the pound or whatever, it is a CON and, your poor opinion of me notwithstanding, I will continue to shout it from the rooftops.

 

lol nobody owes them.... hmmm i did!!

i even have the ticket still

deary me

 

i tell you what ill come park on your drive then, see whether or not you like it, ye? its practically the same thing... even though your going to try and tell me that it isnt.

 

ive no time for people like you ill be honest

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This guy is a complete joke.

I have a well established job, own 95% of my home, have no debt, loans or outstanding credit and I pay my bill and credit cards every month without fail.

How dare you, Morris, tar me with a label when you know nothing about my circumstances? :mad:

I, out of principle will not be paying a supposed debt that was REVOKED by BPM, who then sold my details onto CRS who were STUPID another to pay without researching into it first.

What would you have me do? Pay £100 when I don’t owe it?

Things bad at work? Me thinks CRS may be going into Administration. BYE BYE.

People are not idiots. If I DID owe money. Why aren’t they taking me to court? WHY???????????????????

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lol nobody owes them.... hmmm i did!!

i even have the ticket still

deary me

 

 

ive no time for people like you ill be honest

 

And people here have no time for people like you!

You must be very proud working for a company like CRS (don't deny it), so much so you take their ethics to heart and lie on a public forum just the same as you lie to the victims of CRS's pathetic attempts to extort money from them.

As stated earlier in this thread, you signed up to the forums AFTER you played the good citizen being so scared of being sent to court that you paid up. And all you have done is put down and be offensive to other forum members who are giving good legitimate advice. Your tactics may work on defenceless people who are ignorant of the law but on here they won't work. So why don't you just run back to your masters and tell them that their con artist act won't be working for much longer then all of you will be able to sit down in the mornings with a pot noodle and catch up with Jeremy Kyle.

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Instead of sending CRS a letter i thought it would be better if i spoke to them on the phone. So, I rung CRS and after 15 minutes debating i agreed reluctantly to pay the £25 for the proof and copy of the ticket.They faxed a copy over to me.....

 

You (allegedly) agreed to pay a cost of £25 to get a copy of an unenforceable invoice which consisted of a single piece of paper that they then FAXED over to you a cost of about 10p !!!!

 

Jeez I didn't realise the how gullible some people can be. Obviously the PPCs do realise how gullible a lot of people are which is why they continue to make a living off a [problem].

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Yep - I got a letter from BPM Ground Services / Credit Resource Solutions, never seen the ticket....

 

DO NOT CALL 0870 NUMBER WHICH THEY CUNNINGLY SHOW AS 08707 355 333 USE 01422431020 IT WORKS WITHOUT 0870 DISADVANTAGE. see saynoto0870.com.

 

AVOID CHARGES AND THEY GET A CUT IF YOU CALL 0870 NUMBER SO THEY PROFIT BY THIS [problem] !

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By the way.

There is nothing wrong with Pot Noodles, You SNOB :mad:

 

I happen to favour the chicken and mushroom variety, but do need to add some Heinz Tomato Ketchup otherwise I admit it's quite bland ;)

 

HAHAAAAA

 

lol are you crying??

maybe i am a snob... but im loving it in my mercedes :p

which i fancy parking on your drive and see if you like it.... however you probably wont have a drive will you mate?

 

pay your debts mate...

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i find the advice rubbish because when it comes down to it your telling people not to pay there debts, which is wrong!!

your gonna try and tell me otherwise (im not entirely interested with). but it is wrong

if you park illegally, it serves you right... you get fined for that

if you take out a loan it needs to be paid back

 

most of you people on here think its an injustice if you have to pay back something you owe, or a fine, and prefer to dodging the issues rather than facing up to your debts. cowardice at best.

 

Serial debtors, cost this country - and the tax payers (my self included) millions of pounds. Im just sick of it and some people need to take a long hard look at themselves and sort it out.

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Hmmm.

 

Park illegally? There would have to be law to break wouldn't there

 

Fine ? = invoice.

 

How do you stand on £90 invoice for 10 minute overstay. Then deception, lies and illegal (correct use this time) practices designed to intimidate for payment.

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if you park illegally, it serves you right... you get fined for that

 

HAve I missed a change in the law whereby parking on private land has become criminal and therefore ILLEGAL, and PRIVATE COMPANIES are now legally allowed to FINE people?

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if you park illegally, it serves you right... you get fined for that

 

Well, if I do anything illegal I expect to take the consequences. However refusing to pay a penalty for a breach of a term in a contract is not illegal. Parking in a private car park and overstaying by a few minutes is not illegal. Displaying a ticket the wrong way up is not illegal.

 

On the other hand, trying to [problem] people into believing that they owe money when they do not is pretty close to illegal, and I wish more PPCs would get fined for that.

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in the absence of a signed agreement a debt does not exist unless and until it is crystallised in a judgment. There is law on this. Look it up or ask an in house legal team. That is a judgment by a judge in a court rather then the judgment of someone issuing invoices and breaking a large handful of statutes when trying to trick people into paying an unenforceable penalty. Again there is law on this. See the stickies about private parking companies. Once you have read them and possibly even checked the legal references with the many free online legal resources you will see there is no case for PPC invoices. There is a large handful of laws that PPC break all the time. the most notable are Unfair Terms and Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999 and the Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977 - these will be the ones a solictor's letter will quote when they send a simple page of text that makes the PPC go away. Also regularly broken by PPCs are, inter alia Malicious Communications Act Business Names Act Enterprise Act Act Consumer regulations 2008 Fraud Act 2006 These examples alone shed quite a bit of light on the honesty of PPCs, their methods and the people that run these companies doesn't it. If you want chapter an verse an what parts of these Acts get broken by PPCs then I can supply - in detail. But read the Acts first as then you will get a much better idea oh how much wrongdoing goes on - and by whom.

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