Putting the record straight

[johno1066]

This thread was linked to on pepipoo hence all the trolls joining just to disrupt the forum and attack its members.

 

 

So pepipoo members are trolls are they? I actually believe they offer some sound advice on that board, I have also read some very sound advice on this board, equally, there has been some poor advice.

[neil24103]

I'm sorry but that is just not the case. On pepipoo hundreds, if not thousands of people, have been helped to defend themselves against unjust parking tickets, whether council or PPC issued. The level of analysis is outstanding IMHO. If however you have no grounds to challenge nobody will waste your time or money doing so.

 

This place on the other hand, although I have only been around for a day, appears to be populated with people who like to argue the toss but provide no real help, as well as representatives of the private parking companies and their associates who lurk around and try to put people off challenging tickets. When that happens on pepipoo they are quickly seen off so that those looking for help will receive it.

 

I thought this was a consumer rights forum but it appears I was misled, sadly. One good aspect of this is that I am sure some pepipooers will stick around here to balance up the debate and that can only be a oggd thing.

 

IM WITH YOU LEGALADVISER.im going know where till i let everyone know

[legalhawk]

What question?

 

How can a signage that is not seen, or even seen create an acceptance, while Felthouse v. Bindley clearly states that any acceptance must be clearly communicated. What legal authority overruled Felthouse v. Bindley? Or, if not, why does it not apply to PPCs?

[johno1066]

I'm sorry but that is just not the case. On pepipoo hundreds, if not thousands of people, have been helped to defend themselves against unjust parking tickets, whether council or PPC issued. The level of analysis is outstanding IMHO. If however you have no grounds to challenge nobody will waste your time or money doing so.

 

This place on the other hand, although I have only been around for a day, appears to be populated with people who like to argue the toss but provide no real help, as well as representatives of the private parking companies and their associates who lurk around and try to put people off challenging tickets. When that happens on pepipoo they are quickly seen off so that those looking for help will receive it.

 

I thought this was a consumer rights forum but it appears I was misled, sadly. One good aspect of this is that I am sure some pepipooers will stick around here to balance up the debate and that can only be a good thing.

 

Hear hear!

[green_and_mean]

How can a signage that is not seen, or even seen create an acceptance, while Felthouse v. Bindley clearly states that any acceptance must be clearly communicated. What legal authority overruled Felthouse v. Bindley? Or, if not, why does it not apply to PPCs?

 

 

I have not got a clue what you are on about or care for that matter.

[legalhawk]

I have not got a clue what you are on about or care for that matter.

 

Well, everybody seem to imply that there is a contract between a driver and the PPC? Is there really?

[johno1066]

I'm sorry but that is just not the case. On pepipoo hundreds, if not thousands of people, have been helped to defend themselves against unjust parking tickets, whether council or PPC issued. The level of analysis is outstanding IMHO. If however you have no grounds to challenge nobody will waste your time or money doing so.

 

This place on the other hand, although I have only been around for a day, appears to be populated with people who like to argue the toss but provide no real help, as well as representatives of the private parking companies and their associates who lurk around and try to put people off challenging tickets. When that happens on pepipoo they are quickly seen off so that those looking for help will receive it.

 

I thought this was a consumer rights forum but it appears I was misled, sadly. One good aspect of this is that I am sure some pepipooers will stick around here to balance up the debate and that can only be a good thing.

 

Hear hear!

[neil24103]

oops he stumped.should have checked out pepipoo.or sorry we are all trolls.what a laugh.who needs help now then?

[neil24103]

too many ppc guys lurking around here giving wrong advise.wonder why

[green_and_mean]

oops he stumped.should have checked out pepipoo.or sorry we are all trolls.what a laugh.who needs help now then?

 

If you are going to try and insult me at least try and get a grasp of the English language and punctuation!

I don't care because I never said there was a contract. I don't even drive a car so there is little point in me losing sleep over it is there?

You have added nothing constructive to this debate other than call someone a fat pig and make an untrue statement that parking fines are covered by criminal law.

[neil24103]

excuse me but fpn.s parking fines are covered by law.ie mag courts.invoices are not.you cant take me to mag court over an invioce now can you.or am i stupid.please correct me if im wrong.and if you dont drive then why are you looking at this thread? PPC.I THINK

[neil24103]

Think I Upset Him.god I Love This Thread.come On Pepipoo

[neil24103]

who mentioned parking fines? .tickets from ppc.s are invoices.not fines get your fact right before posting please

and still unenforceable if defended properly

[green_and_mean]

excuse me but fpn.s parking fines are covered by law.ie mag courts.invoices are not.you cant take me to mag court over an invioce now can you.or am i stupid.please correct me if im wrong.and if you dont drive then why are you looking at this thread? PPC.I THINK

 

well you think wrong.i didnt say i didnt drive or cant you read as well as write?no you cant take an invoice to magistrate court so that kind of ruins your theory about being guilty or cant you remember your own stupid remarks?

[neil24103]

tut tut who.s a angry boy then

[battyboomboom]

... and make an untrue statement that parking fines are covered by criminal law.

He never said anything of the sort, Neil rightly claimed under British law you are innocent until proven guilty - the Human rights act ensures this.

[Muggerbee]

Kindly substitute the word "Guilty" for "liable" and "innocent" for "otherwise"

then we can all go back to being mates.

 

Parking fines are covered by criminal law when issued by a police officer, a traffic warden or a PCSO, referring to a Penalty charge under contract as a fine is also covered by criminal law. btw

[neil24103]

excuse me but check your post .you said you dont drive a car.you must drive one of those tow trucks thst take peoples cars away then.sorry for the mistake

[green_and_mean]

He never said anything of the sort, Neil rightly claimed under British law you are innocent until proven guilty - the Human rights act ensures this.

 

 

So if I get an invoice from British Gas I'm innocent am I, innocent of what using gas?

[neil24103]

Kindly substitute the word "Guilty" for "liable" and "innocent" for "otherwise"

then we can all go back to being mates.

 

Parking fines are covered by criminal law when issued by a police officer, a traffic warden or a PCSO, referring to a Penalty charge under contract as a fine is also covered by criminal law. btw

 

thanks for putting me right.cheers

[legalhawk]

Still ponders about an answer to his question.

 

And I always thought Small Claims Courts must argue under the same laws as any other court. I start to wonder....

[neil24103]

He never said anything of the sort, Neil rightly claimed under British law you are innocent until proven guilty - the Human rights act ensures this.

 

thankyou

[neil24103]

So if I get an invoice from British Gas I'm innocent am I, innocent of what using gas?

 

invoice for what? you only get abill from them for what you have used

[legalhawk]

So if I get an invoice from British Gas I'm innocent am I, innocent of what using gas?

 

You only get an invoice from them if there is a contract between them and you, to which you have clearly communicated acceptance.

[battyboomboom]

So if I get an invoice from British Gas I'm innocent am I, innocent of what using gas?

You would be innocent until such point as they took you to court and proved you guilty/liable of using gas without payment, ie breach of contract.