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    • Speaking of the reformatory boys, here they are with all of their supporters, some of whom traveled with them from miles away, all carefully crammed together and photographed to look like there were more than about 80 .. rather like Farages last rally with even fewer people crammed around what looked like an ice cream van or mobile tea bar ... Although a number in the crowd apparently thought they were at a vintage car rally as they appeared to be chanting 'crank-her'. A vintage Bentley must be out of view.   Is this all there is? Its less than the Tory candidate. - shut up and smile while they get a camera angle that looks better
    • in order for us to help you we require the following information:- Which Court have you received the claim from ? Canterbury If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form. ( Name of the Claimant ? Moneybarn No 1   How many defendant's  joint or self ? One Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to. 29/05/24 Acknowledged by 14/06/24  Defence by 29/06/24  Particulars of Claim PARTICULARS OF CLAIM   1.  By a Conditional Sale Agreement in writing made on 25th August 2022. Between the Claimant and Defendant, the Claimant let to the Defendant on Conditional Sale. A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack  Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached   2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00.  The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month.   3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement,   Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us.   Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement   9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate   4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:-   a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement number 756050. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     Thw total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by Firrst class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges ]= 5.  A the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or  alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage.   Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs.   Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024   What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
    • Commentary June 2024 WWW.ELECTORALCALCULUS.CO.UK Interesting article about just how bad it could be for the Tories.  Also Tories could be hoping on Reform not having candidates in many seats, as they were not ready.  
    • Even a Piers Morgan is an improvement and a gutless Farage Piers Morgan calls for second Brexit referendum WWW.THELONDONECONOMIC.COM Piers Morgan and Nigel Farage have faced off over Brexit and a second referendum in a heated reunion on BBC Question Time.   “Why don’t we have another referendum about Brexit?” he questioned. “I seem to remember when 2016 came around we were told there was going to be control of our borders and it was going to be economically beneficial to this country. And eight years later we have lost complete control of our borders… and economically it seems to have been a wilful act of self-harm.”   ... Piers missed off : after all somebody said a 48/52 decision would be "unfinished business" by a long way - was that person just bul lying (again)  
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Hi Postggj - look at the agreements - you see the letter from VT department - heading 'regulated multipple agreement under section 18 CCA 1974'

 

Funny cos I can't see on the actual agreement where it states this is a multiple agreement??

In fact doesn't a multiple agreement require a seperate signature for both agreement and PPI if that was the case??

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Hi Andie

 

Thanks for looking at this for me. To be honest the jargon in the documents are all a bit double dutch to me, hence me posting them on this site. I haven't asked them for my PPI back as yet as I am still waiting for them to send me my SAR. Once this has been sent then I will get the wheels in motion

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You've been waiting an awful long time for your SAR - I know the feeling I've been waiting 8 months for mine.

 

I have them in court at the moment about PPI I've gone without my SAR and have made the judge aware of this and that Welcome have been ignoring me - he didn't like that!

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I take it their definition of 'full time employment' can mean what they like? I was only working 20hrs at the time of taking out this agreement and to my knowledge that is usually classed as part-time

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Yeah, I asked for it in 2007...they received the request then but didn't send it and I have decided to pursue this once more and resent them a request in February, which again they received via recorded delivery and again they have chose to ignore it. I called them two days ago and they say that they will send it within 14 days. I cant get credit because they keep registering missed payments on my credit file (this has been going on for 2 years). I should report this to the ICO as this is false information (I should have been defaulted for the PPI a long time ago). I don't really have much faith in the ICO. I complained to them before about Cap 1 defaulting me for late payment charges whilst I was in dispute with them and they were useless.

 

How is your court case going with Welcome? After reading about Welcome on CAG I take it they defend themselves in court all the time?

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Hi all

 

I have eventually, only after 2 years received my SAR from Welcome. I want to claim my missold PPI from this lot and get recorded 'missed payments' from my credit file removed. I have scanned some documents and wonder if someone would mind given me their thoughts and also any help on my next steps.

 

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I haven't paid them a penny since I VT'd my car and the amount on the statement dated 14/3/07 of £600.22, they say is PPI, which I have refused to pay. I don't know what the extra £10 added as 'capitalisation' and 'ad hoc' are. I also dont have any details on who my PPI was with. They have included any of this in my SAR. I hope someone can help:)

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Hi,

I have had similiar problems with welcome, I claimed misselling of ppi and they told me I would get it pro ratad at the end of term, the subject access they sent me contained someone elses details and they haven't bothered to reply to any of the 9 letters incluuding default on the cca. It looks like I am not getting anywhere my lat resort is to actually drive to their head office. The capitalisation according to the local branch is interest.

 

Good luck and let us know how u get on with this horrible company.

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Hi,

I have had similiar problems with welcome, I claimed misselling of ppi and they told me I would get it pro ratad at the end of term, the subject access they sent me contained someone elses details and they haven't bothered to reply to any of the 9 letters incluuding default on the cca. It looks like I am not getting anywhere my lat resort is to actually drive to their head office. The capitalisation according to the local branch is interest.

 

Good luck and let us know how u get on with this horrible company.

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Hi all

 

I have eventually, only after 2 years received my Subject Access Request from Welcome. I want to claim my missold PPI from this lot and get recorded 'missed payments' from my credit file removed. I have scanned some documents and wonder if someone would mind given me their thoughts and also any help on my next steps.

 

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I haven't paid them a penny since I VT'd my car and the amount on the statement dated 14/3/07 of £600.22, they say is PPI, which I have refused to pay. I don't know what the extra £10 added as 'capitalisation' and 'ad hoc' are. I also dont have any details on who my PPI was with. They havent included any of this in my Subject Access Request. I hope someone can help:-)

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i know you are confused tracy but please stick to your thread

 

its been bookmarked so i will allways be looking in

 

good advice from people gets lost and it helps future caggers

ive replied on the main welcome thread

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Hi Postggi,

 

I have just been reading Animal Lovers thread on Welcome, which you helped with. Her last post was in April with no update (hope she is ok!). To keep myself right..do you think I should SAR Direct Group or Norwich Union? I sent a non-compliance letter to Welcome as they haven't provided me the insurance details in my orginal SAR.

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Me And Animal Lover Got There In The End

 

It Took A Lot Out Of Her

 

She, Like Most People Was Relieved Thats Its All Over

 

Ill Get Back To You On This

 

With Direct Group And Norwich Union

 

Its A Different Game

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I called Welcome again today...told them that they havent included any information regarding the PPI in with my SAR. Got that old chestnut ' we dont hold that kind of information' and was told to contact my local branch. Contacted the local branch and the woman on the other end didn't even know what a subject access request was..how does that not surprise me;) Eventually got the Account Manager on the phone who told me that I should contact Direct Group and he gave me a policy number.

 

I spoke to a really helpful lady who told me that the policy number I gave them was not recognised by them, but she did confirm that they have record of credit protection insurance and total loss insurance taken out under my name. The most interesting part is that these were taken out on the 16/7/04, but my contract was signed on the 27/7/04. The account manager told me on the phone that the policy was taken out on the 27th 'the day your policy started'. Direct Group are going to send me a copy of my policy document, but I guess my next step is to contact Aviva (Norwich Union). I will give them a call tomorrow as they are closed just know.

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tracy

 

most important

 

sar direct group

 

I HAVE MY REASONS AND WILL NOT POST ON AN OPEN FORUM

 

YOU WILL BE STONE WALLED BY NORWICH UNION

 

LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR COPY

 

THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME CREATIVE ACCOUNTING ME THINKS

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