Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

    • Hi, I have an old outstanding debt from 1994 due to MBNA for £20,000. The debt has been passed to various DCAs and is currently with PRA Group.  I sent them a CCA letter in January 2024. They acknowledged this letter and stated they would come back when they had more information, however the information did not arrive within the 12 working day scenario.. I have just received a copy of the agreement which goes back to 1994 from them. In their response letter they have stated " Please find enclosed documentation received to date: we are waiting further documents in order to complete your request. We have currently deemed this debt as unenforceable which means we are not able to take court or further action against you to recover the outstanding balance". They then go on to state "we are still legally entitled to:  1.Contact you to ask and repay what you owe 2.Pass your details onto a third party collection agency 3. Continue to report your account with the credit reference bureaux (as appropriate)". I'm at a loss as to what I should do next and would appreciate any guidance on this matter. I am currently paying £5.00 pcm. TIA      
    • A sinister tactic known as shoulder surfing is on the rise in the UK. Fraudsters are watching unwitting people log in to their mobile banking apps over their shoulder.View the full article
    • My understanding is that they won't provide the name to me whether the investigation is Live or Closed, & I have no legal rep as I didn't have P.I. Cover on my policy, & am intending to claim using OIC.org.uk, but remain completely stuck as they 100% cannot open a claim on the portal without both the Reg. No. & Name of the other driver.  
    • thanks again ftmdave, your words are verey encouraging and i do appreciate them. i have taken about 2 hours to think of a letter to write to the ceo...i will paste it below...also how would i address a ceo? do i just put his name? or put dear sir? do you think its ok?  i would appreciate feedback/input from anybody if anything needs to be added/taken away, removed if incorrect etc. i am writing it on behalf of my friend..she is the named driver  - im the one with the blue badge and owner of the car - just for clarification. thanks in adavance to everyone.       My friend and I are both disabled and have been a victim of disability discrimination on the part of your agents.   I have been incorrectly 'charged' by your agent 'excel parking' for overstaying in your car park, but there was no overstay. The letter I recieved said the duration of stay was 15 minutes but there is a 10 minute grace period and also 5 minutes consideration time, hence there was no duration of stay of 15 minutes.   I would like to take this oppertunity to clarify what happend at your Gravesend store. We are struggling finacially due to the 'cost of living crisis' and not being able to work because we are both disabled, we was attracted to your store for the 10 items for £10 offer. I suffer dyslexia and depression and my friend who I take shopping has a mobility disability. We went to buy some shopping at your Gravesend branch of Iceland on 28th of December 2023, we entered your car park, tried to read and understand the parking signs and realised we had to pay for parking. We then realised we didnt have any change for the parking machine so went back to look for coins in the car and when we couldnt find any we left. As my friend has mobility issues it takes some time for me to help him out of the car, as you probably understand this takes more time than it would a normal able bodied person. As I suffer dyslexia I am sure you'll agree that it took me more time than a normal person to read and understand the large amount of information at the pay & display machine. After this, it took more time than an able bodied person to leave the car park especially as I have to help my friend on his crutches etc get back into the car due to his mobility disability. All this took us 15 minutes.   I was the driver of my friends car and he has a blue badge. He then received a 'notice to keeper' for a 'failure to purchase a parking tariff'. On the letter it asked to name the driver if you wasnt the driver at the time, so as he wasnt the driver he named me. I appealed the charge and told them we are disabled and explained the situation as above. The appeal was denied, and even more so was totally ignored regarding our disabilities and that we take longer than an able bodied person to access the car and read the signs and understand them. As our disabilities were ignored and disregarded for the time taken I believe this is discrimination against us. I cannot afford any unfair charges of this kind as I am severely struggling financially. I cannot work and am a carer for my disabled Son who also has a mental and mobility disability. I obviously do not have any disposable income and am in debt with my bills. So its an absolute impossibility for me to pay this incorrect charge.     After being discriminated by your agent my friend decided to contact 'iceland customer care team' on my behalf and again explained the situation and also sent photos of his disabled blue badge and proof of disability. He asked the care team to cancel the charge as ultimately its Iceland's land/property and you have the power over excel parking to cancel it. Again we was met with no mention or consideration for our disability and no direct response regarding the cancellation, all we was told was to contact excel parking. He has replied over 20 times to try to get the 'care team' to understand and cancel this but its pointless as we are just ignored every time. I believe that Ignoring our disability is discrimination which is why I am now contacting you.     I have noticed on your website that you are 'acting' to ease the 'cost of living crisis' : https://about.iceland.co.uk/2022/04/05/iceland-acts-to-ease-the-cost-of-living-crisis/   If you really are commited to helping people in this time of crisis ..and especially two struggling disabled people, can you please cancel this charge as it will only cause more damage to our mental health if you do not.  
    • I've also been in touch via the online portal to the Police's GDPR team, to request the name of the other Driver. Got this response:   Dear Mr. ---------   Our Ref: ----------   Thank you for your request which has been forwarded to the Data Protection Team for consideration.   The data you are requesting is third party, we would not give this information directly to you.   Your solicitor or legal team acting on our behalf would approach us directly with your signed (wet) consent allowing us to consider the request further.   I note the investigation is showing as ‘live’ at this time, we would not considered sharing data for suggested injury until the investigation has been closed.   If you wish to pursue a claim once the investigation has been closed please signpost your legal team to [email protected]   Kind regards   ----------------- Data Protection Assistant    
  • Recommended Topics

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like
  • Recommended Topics

hsbc cca


lolly371
style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 6037 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

going through my credit card agreement with a fine tooth comb, i have noticed that it has an APR of 17.9% variable. how much can it vary? my statements are charged at 20.9%. (i think- there are only 3 statements that tell me the APR rate) is that a reasonable fluctuation? also the credit agreement is actually the application form i signed before receiving the card. i know there have been a lot of discussions about the difference between an application form and a credit agreement, but it seems to have all of the prescribed terms, so i am a bit unsure of what to think. my oh is going to scan it for me when he gets a minute, so any advice would be good. i'm not very good with computers (it took me nearly a year to get the courage to start my own thread!!!) so sorry for the delay! if i can get any advice on the APR in the meantime, though, i'd be very grateful

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Replies 112
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Hi Lolly, If the application form has all the terms and conditions that govern the credit agreement printed on it then your probably on thin ice.

 

The one I got sent back was just my signature and a bland statement saying if a card was granted it would be governed by the terms and conditions of the lender and mentioned two clauses in particular by number. They also sent a set of the up to date terms and conditions which were totally different and didn't have clauses with the numbers on the application form :rolleyes: so check what you have been sent carefully.

 

Apr's do fluctuate but take the higher one when you are calculating the interest due back on your charges :D.

 

pete

Link to post
Share on other sites

today i received another letter from hsbc saying

 

I write in reference to a recent letter from the Financial Ombudsman Service.

I can see that you have requested copies of credit agreements from the bank and have said that you are unhappy at the time we have taken to respond.

Please find copies of signed agreement forms for your personal loan, credit card and flexi-loan. Regarding the overdraft facility that existed on your account, it was agreed over the telephone and no signed agreement was required.

I would also like to apologise if this information has not been provided as quickly as it should have been. I would be grateful if you would contact the Financial Ombudsman Service and let them know that the bank has now sent you the necessary paperwork.

 

This was only a small part of the reason why i contacted the financial ombudsman. i have an ongoing complaint, and they wont address it, so i will now need to send hsbc another letter telling them to read through my previous correspandance and get it sorted. Ever noticed how, hsbc deal with the problems they can, and ignore the rest?!! again, as soon as we can work out how to upload copies of the agreements i will post them for some advice.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Regarding the overdraft facility that existed on your account, it was agreed over the telephone and no signed agreement was required.

 

 

overdraft facility? what overdraft facility? is this the one where i have stopped using my account because as soon as i zero the balance they remove another charge so i transerred verything to another account and i am now overdrawn by £200 purely from charges!!! i dont rememer discussing it over the phone, or them agreeing to give me an overdraft

Link to post
Share on other sites

Write back and tell them you cant contact the Financial Ombudsman Service and let them know that the bank has now sent you the necessary paperwork because they haven't :).

 

HSBC run this silly formal/informal overdraft system if you ask for an overdraft its formal if you don't and your account goes overdrawn then its informal. It's meaningless twaddle :-)

 

pete

Link to post
Share on other sites

Write back and tell them you cant contact the Financial Ombudsman Service and let them know that the bank has now sent you the necessary paperwork because they haven't :).

i like it!!:lol:

HSBC run this silly formal/informal overdraft system if you ask for an overdraft its formal if you don't and your account goes overdrawn then its informal. It's meaningless twaddle :-)

 

pete

why doesnt that surprise me, if there's one thing hsbc likes, its meaningless twaddle

Link to post
Share on other sites

well, we've spent ages trying to attach the scanned credit agreements, but no success, tried this photobucket thing, but cant make head nor tail of it. dont know what we're doing wrong, but hey, thats why neither of us work with computers!!

Link to post
Share on other sites

anybody with any suggestions how to post these credit agreements? i need to sort it now, because i am desperate to get hsbc to accept my reduced payments.

 

at the moment they keep trying to take them out each month and then banging a charge on, which doesnt matter too much in itself as i dont use the account any more and will eventually get around to reclaim the charges- which will basically put the account back to zero. both mine and my ohs accounts are now overdrawn by the exact amount in charges we havent got around to claiming, yet!

 

when i pointed this out to somebody at hsbc, i was informed, you have now made three claims against us, if you try it again there will be severe repercussions for you! with hindsight, i perhaps should have left longer between claims and done them all in one, but i was so desperate for cash that i did two claims for £100ish as soon as they had been taken.

 

the trouble i am having is, that i am approaching a default and would really like to avoid that if at all possible, but until they accept my offer, i am stuck, so i could really do with some advice regarding the agreements. they look fine to me, but if somebody could find ANYTHING at all that i could use as a bargaining tool, it could mean the difference between me regaining control of my finances, or slipping deeper.

 

as i may have mentioned before, we are only in this mess because my oh was ill for a very long time, but he is better now, and we can start to repair our finances if we could just get the chance to actually stop the cycle.

 

sorry about the long winded rant, i just wanted to clearly explain the situation. i am not trying to avoid payment, i just want to slow things down for a short while to get us back on our feet, and hsbc clearly dont feel the same way.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Have you got a photo bucket account. If you haven't sign up (It's free). Once you have signed up, you will need to be in the "my album" section. On the right hand side, you will see an upload box. As you have said you have scanned the agreements on to your machine you will need to make sure you are in the "images from my pc" part. then click on browse and find your scanned images. If there is more than one image you will need to use the other "browse" buttons. then all you have to do is pres "Upload". Once your images are on the site you will then be able to copy them on to a post here. To do this, find the image, right click your mouse, select copy, go to your post on CAG, press right click again and then paste.

 

If you have any problems, just shout

Link to post
Share on other sites

On the photo bucket site with every photo you choose, there is a choice to copy as an IMG (for forums). Left click on the one beside your image and you should get a little pop-up which says 'copied'...

 

Then just go to the forum and paste it in......... :)

 

 

PS Freaky , have you seen Pete's last post on his own thread - he's thinking of going somewhere else and we can't afford to lose people like him.......... :eek:

Nemo me impune lacessit

 

 

Advice & opinions given by johnnymitch are personal, are not endorsed by Consumer Action Group or Bank Action Group, and are offered informally, without prejudice & without liability. Your decisions and actions are your own, and should you be in any doubt, you are advised to seek the opinion of a qualified professional.

 

 

If you think I've helped you please feel free to tickle my star :-D

Link to post
Share on other sites

 

PS Freaky , have you seen Pete's last post on his own thread - he's thinking of going somewhere else and we can't afford to lose people like him.......... :eek:

 

i've just read it.... whats happening, why is everybody so upset? CAG used to be so happy, yet everywhere i look people are upsetting each other.:(

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Lolly. I am hoping it is just a blip. Everyone has their off days and yesterday seems to have been a bit of a bad one for quiet a few.

I am sure things will retun to normal service before long. This really is one of the friendliest forums I have ever seen and has a strong sense of community. I think it is that sense of community that will see it through this rocky patch.

We will all laugh about it soon.:D

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Lolly,

 

Did the other bit work OK? Or haven't you tried it yet.........:cool:

Nemo me impune lacessit

 

 

Advice & opinions given by johnnymitch are personal, are not endorsed by Consumer Action Group or Bank Action Group, and are offered informally, without prejudice & without liability. Your decisions and actions are your own, and should you be in any doubt, you are advised to seek the opinion of a qualified professional.

 

 

If you think I've helped you please feel free to tickle my star :-D

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Lolly. I am sure things will retun to normal service before long. This really is one of the friendliest forums I have ever seen and has a strong sense of community.

 

thats exactly how i feel. CAG has become a life line to me, its not just the problem solving, its knowing that we are all in this together. you join CAG dreading the postman coming, and end up feeling strong and fully prepared for what may be thrown at you next. i have learned so much, and i am so grateful for all the support and advice i have received, and if i can pass even a small portion of that on to somebody else, i will be a very happy lady.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi lolly. Buller has just forwarded your emal to me but the file type is not recognised for some reason. Can you try saving the scans to another file type or word document? If you can see them on screen can you copy and paste them and put them directly on to a post on here?

Link to post
Share on other sites

What is the file type Freaky?

Nemo me impune lacessit

 

 

Advice & opinions given by johnnymitch are personal, are not endorsed by Consumer Action Group or Bank Action Group, and are offered informally, without prejudice & without liability. Your decisions and actions are your own, and should you be in any doubt, you are advised to seek the opinion of a qualified professional.

 

 

If you think I've helped you please feel free to tickle my star :-D

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...