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:-) Hi Everone My i am off to the court tomorrow to put my Claim form in. i went to the courts on Friday and found out that i can get my court fees free. I have my form is ready to hand in and the list of all the charges i was wondering should i hand in the two previous letters that i sent to the bank the premlin and the LBA with the claim form, sorry for keep asking too many questions.

Libby :smile:

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why do i need three copies do i need to put all three into the courts

 

hi libby

 

1 for the courts

1 for the bank

and 1 for the court then they send you a copy

 

hope this helps

 

just been reading your post

 

you go gal

 

just look below on mine!!!;)

Halifax preliminary letter sent 17/05/06 charges £2661.00

Bog Standard blah blah blah letter received 22nd May 2006.

received lengthy letter dated 24th May 2006 offering £605 pah!

letter before action sent registered 5th June 2006

letter received in response to lba offering £1801.00 errrrr no ta

court action filed 23rd June 2006

deemed served to bank on25th June 2006

notice of acknowledgement of service has been filed

they intend to defend

7th july received letter PAYING IN FULL!!!

 

10th July cash deposit £112.58

10th July cash deposit £2869.00

:D :D :D :D

 

HALIFAX SETTLED IN FULL

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Hi All

 

I have now put the claim form into the courts - so here goes, hope it goes well and gets sorted asap.

 

Also i have now sent off a LBA for my mum as she was offered £117.oo but they have taken £262.00 in charges, so we will see what happens.

 

Libby :confused: :confused:

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hi libby

 

1 for the courts

1 for the bank

and 1 for the court then they send you a copy

 

hope this helps

 

just been reading your post

 

you go gal

 

just look below on mine!!!;)

 

:confused: :confused: Oh My god made a big mistake just realised that i did not give extra copies to the court when i put my claim but the lady at the court asked me if there was just one copy and i said yes, i asked her is that okay or should i bring in the extra copies and she no thats okay, so i hope it is and does not slow down anything.

Libby :-( :-(

 

Prelim Letter sent 14 June 2006 (£2,301.00

rec Letter from the bank on 21 June 2006 to say sorry to hear that

rec another letter 24 june 2006 refund £468.00

3 July 2006 i sent my LBA

heard nothing

sent my N1 claim form in on 17 July 2006

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I expect they have a photocopier.... you'll be fine !

 

:) Thank You

Libby

 

Prelim Letter sent 14 June 2006 (£2,301.00

rec Letter from the bank on 21 June 2006 to say sorry to hear that

rec another letter 24 june 2006 refund £468.00

3 July 2006 i sent my LBA

heard nothing

sent my N1 claim form in on 17 July 2006

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i did mymoneyclaim on 17th so we should keep each other posted!

Halifax WON X 2, Northern Rock WON, Capital One WON, Marbles WON, HSBC WON

On the 25th october I will be filing a claim for £175.00 Citicards. Just watch it!

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i did mymoneyclaim on 17th so we should keep each other posted!

 

Hi TBeckett

Sounds good to me i hope it works out well for both and all of us on this site.

Thank You and best of luck

Libby

 

Prelim Letter sent 14 June 2006 (£2,301.00

rec Letter from the bank on 21 June 2006 to say sorry to hear that

rec another letter 24 june 2006 refund £468.00

3 July 2006 i sent my LBA

heard nothing

sent my N1 claim form in on 17 July 2006

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Thanks we will have a virtual glass of bubbly in a couple of weeks,

Halifax WON X 2, Northern Rock WON, Capital One WON, Marbles WON, HSBC WON

On the 25th october I will be filing a claim for £175.00 Citicards. Just watch it!

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Thanks we will have a virtual glass of bubbly in a couple of weeks,

 

 

I hope so!!!!!! :p :p

Libby

 

 

Prelim Letter sent 14 June 2006 (£2,301.00

rec Letter from the bank on 21 June 2006 to say sorry to hear that

rec another letter 24 june 2006 refund £468.00

3 July 2006 i sent my LBA

heard nothing

sent my N1 claim form in on 17 July 2006

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Hi All

Just an update and a question Halifax have just sent me another offer of £938.00, but i have my claim in should i just sit tight and wait for them to recieve my claim from the courts, or should i phone Halifax - my guess is i just sit tight and wait for them to recieve the claim from the courts.

What does anyone else think.

Libby

 

 

Prelim Letter sent 14 June 2006 (£2,301.00

Rec Letter from the bank on 21 June 2006 to say sorry to hear that

Rec another letter 24 june 2006 refund £468.00

3 July 2006 i sent my LBA

heard nothing

Sent my N1 Claim form in on 17 July 2006

Another offer from Halifax £938.00 on 20 July 2006

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Yes - just wait for them to offer the full amount.

Opinions given herein are made informally by myself as a lay-person in good faith based on personal experience. For legal advice you must always consult a registered and insured lawyer.

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Yes - just wait for them to offer the full amount.

 

Thanks for that barracad

Libby

 

Prelim Letter sent 14 June 2006 (£2,301.00

rec Letter from the bank on 21 June 2006 to say sorry to hear that

rec another letter 24 june 2006 refund £468.00

3 July 2006 i sent my LBA

heard nothing

sent my N1 claim form in on 17 July 2006

Offer from Halifax for £938.00 20 July 2006.

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Well Everyone

 

I have received my claim form back from the courts, now just to wait to see

what Halifax are going to do.

 

It says that my claim was issued on 17 July 2006. The court sent it to the defendant by first class post on the 20 July 2006 and it will be deemed to be served on 23 July 2006. The defendant has until 7 August 2006 to reply.

(Claim Number 6NS02255)

 

So feel a bit better about all this just hope Halifax does something quick.

What happens if they do not reply by 7 August 2006?????????????

 

Libby

 

Prelim Letter sent 14 June 2006 (£2,301.00

rec Letter from the bank on 21 June 2006 to say sorry to hear that

rec another letter 24 june 2006 refund £468.00

3 July 2006 i sent my LBA

heard nothing

sent my N1 claim form in on 17 July 2006

Offer from Halifax for £938.00 20 July 2006.

22 July 2006 rec claim form back from the court.

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What happens if they do not reply by 7 August 2006?

 

You win by default.

Opinions given herein are made informally by myself as a lay-person in good faith based on personal experience. For legal advice you must always consult a registered and insured lawyer.

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if they do not reply by August 7 you can enter Judgement by Default - rare at this stage - halifax are quick to acknowledge - becuase its over £1500 you will probably have to fill out an allocation questionnaire at a later point - nothingto fear a template on how to fill it out is in the templates libary

Halifax Credit Card - £408.16 - Settled in FULL 26/6/06

Halifax Loans - £397.97 - Settled in FULL 25/8/06

GE Money Topman £216.75 - SETTLED IN FULL

Marbles LBA - £475.00 - £250 Offered :rolleyes:

Halifax Current Account LBA - SETTLED IN FULL

Yorkshire Bank Current Accounts £2271.77 - Issued 30/6/06 - Default Judgement Issued - Warrant of Execution Requested

Capital One - LBA - £88 Knocked of Balance

Egg PPI - LBA

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Hi Guys

 

Thought i would just give you a quick update - nothing going on early days i know but i thought halifax may have rec claim - i suppose they would have just got it today so hopefully they may respond by this week sometime.

 

Libby

 

Prelim Letter sent 14 June 2006 (£2,301.00

rec Letter from the bank on 21 June 2006 to say sorry to hear that

rec another letter 24 june 2006 refund £468.00

3 July 2006 i sent my LBA

heard nothing

sent my N1 claim form in on 17 July 2006

Offer from Halifax for £938.00 20 July 2006.

22 July 2006 rec claim form back from the court.

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Hi Guys

 

I have still not heard anything back from Halifax - I suppose they may have a backlog of them to do. Can it take this long to get an ack back from Them.

 

Libby

 

Prelim Letter sent 14 June 2006 (£2,301.00

rec Letter from the bank on 21 June 2006 to say sorry to hear that

rec another letter 24 june 2006 refund £468.00

3 July 2006 i sent my LBA

heard nothing

sent my N1 claim form in on 17 July 2006

Offer from Halifax for £938.00 20 July 2006.

22 July 2006 rec claim form back from the court.

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well i havent had my letter either but they acknowledged online, if you went to the court yourself then chances are it has already been acknowleged.

 

come saturday and it will all be through! not the money, that follows 9th Aug:o

Halifax WON X 2, Northern Rock WON, Capital One WON, Marbles WON, HSBC WON

On the 25th october I will be filing a claim for £175.00 Citicards. Just watch it!

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well i havent had my letter either but they acknowledged online, if you went to the court yourself then chances are it has already been acknowleged.

 

come saturday and it will all be through! not the money, that follows 9th Aug:o

 

Thanks

 

Hope it gets sorted before the 12 Aug cause got a wedding to go to and no clothes - well none that are nice and need to get something for my daughter to wear (never bought anything new to wear for a year or so)

 

So i can pop into court and ask them?

Can you go online instead and put in your claim number or do you have to go into the courts?

 

Libby

 

Prelim Letter sent 14 June 2006 (£2,301.00

rec Letter from the bank on 21 June 2006 to say sorry to hear that

rec another letter 24 june 2006 refund £468.00

3 July 2006 i sent my LBA

heard nothing

sent my N1 claim form in on 17 July 2006

Offer from Halifax for £938.00 20 July 2006.

22 July 2006 rec claim form back from the court.

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i am assuming that you didnt use Moneyclaim online, which means you will have to telephone the court, there should have been contact details given to you or printed on the bumpf.

 

My postbag was empty last night, the fan mail from the banks has stopped. The acknoweldgement from the court hasnt arrived either but I know it has been ack, so hopefully there is something today. If there is I will let you know and my reckoning is it will follow within the next day.

 

i am sure it will be sorted in time and cinderella + child will go to the ball.

Halifax WON X 2, Northern Rock WON, Capital One WON, Marbles WON, HSBC WON

On the 25th october I will be filing a claim for £175.00 Citicards. Just watch it!

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