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    • I'm trying to unravel this – but I get the impression that there was no contract between you and EVRi and that you didn't even choose them but instead you decided use some third party parcel broker in the USA which organised the delivery. Is this correct? EVRi came into the picture because they would then eventually selected for part of the journey although you had no knowledge that it might be them and I suppose it didn't really matter as long as the item got to you. Secondly, I really don't understand the journey which this item made. You bought the item from somebody in the USA. They then were meant to dispatch it to you to another address in the USA but for some reason or other it came to the UK and then into the hands of EVRi at which point it was lost or stolen. More confusion here because you now tell us that EVRi marked it as being out for delivery but it was never delivered. This suggests that it was going to be delivered to a UK address but earlier on you said that it was going to be delivered to USA address. I think you need to look at the story. Maybe show it to a friend of yours who is not particularly where the details and ask them if they can make head or tail of it and then come back to us with clarification so that we fully understand. Also, I think we'd like to know what the item is, how was it declared, what was the value which was declared. You said it was a valuable item because it was rare and collectable. I gather from this that it is non-fungible. We need to understand more about this. Was an insurance policy purchased to cover it during the delivery process. I understand that this rare and collectable item be valued at £200. Have evidence this value. This could become very important. Also you have given is no idea when this happened. We need to understand the full timescale. There are a number of possibilities here including the possibility of the contract action against EVRi on the basis of your third party rights or an action for negligence but we need to know far more and we need to get a story that makes sense.   Finally, I understand that you have sent the letter of claim. What did it say? How much time did you give them? What did you expect to happen as a result of the letter of claim? Whatever the answers to those questions might be, clearly you had no idea how to proceed after having sent such a letter. A letter of claim is meant to be a serious threat of some legal action if some condition which you have stipulated is not complied with. You set a deadline for compliance and at the end of that deadline you issue the court action. Clearly you are not in a position to do that so your letter of claim is a bluff and undermines your credibility and it will find its way into the EVRi wastepaper basket – if it's not there already.  
    • Good morning. I just wanted to check something please. The other side have moved slightly and negotiated a full and final offer price to end this matter. I am happy with this. However, I want to make sure this is the end of the matter and am emailing the following over to them prior to payment. Is this enough to ensure they can come back for nothing else? Thanks -------------------------------------------------- Dear Sir.   With regards your last email below.   I am pleased to agree to the full and final settlement figure given below.   Can you confirm this payment will be in full and final payment with no further claim to be brought against me in this matter?   Best regards
    • 100% sure I didn't receive it, that why my first post is with the £100 letter.
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    • use this your WS and inc this as an exhibit off to bed now 3 nights been up till 4am aurora watching wont be on too early as it's lambing season out herding with the dog. your WS main thrust is the debt would now be SB'd , the DN was filed xxxyrs+months after it should have been thus unlawfully extending  SB date to infinity. highlight their admittance regarding errors at that time period in your 'redetermination'  paragraph. agreements unreadable. would have already been written off due to SLC age write off criteria has they not issued the claim to stop the SB clock when they had no paperwork to prove their case in the 1st place. never earned over threshold. dx       Erudio - stopped sending email deferments won at FOS DRN-4141462.pdf
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      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

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Just got back from tesco and still nothing there :mad:

 

Looks like it's a buget holiday for me :o

 

Sorry copeswell ....................I knew it was daniel12 getting married in cyprus - just put wrong name :p

 

We got hitched in the town hall in paphos - very nice old greek building.

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Has anyone seen channel 4 news tonight?

 

What does this means for us who have waited 28 days with mcol/n1?

 

Are we still gonna get our money? What about the wasted £120.00 court fee if we're not gonna get anything?

 

I'm really hacked off as that nw bloke told me to ring tomorrow - bet he bloomimg well knew all about this test case :mad:

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I read about the test case on the BBC website as I am currently in NZ, this is a concerned. NW put their defence in yesterday on the day that the 28days was up!! Does this mean then that we could all end up going to court and not winning our claim now?

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There is a thread above - right at the top. If you have a court case already - continue with it.......but the court may not make a decision until the OFT have made their decision - so yes really annoyed I am!

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It seems it is up to the court decide whether to continue or not - but good news is that our foot is in the door when they do pay out - as I think OFT will agree in our favour - but possibly only a partial refund - I really do not know! So we will have to see what our individual courts do and just hope the court case is done sooner than later!

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But it seems that they say the court will rule a stay on current claims. This means that we still wont get anything till after it's all settled!!!

I'm fuming at that bloke from nw - I really think he knew something when i spoke to him on tuesday. Fuming with my husband too - i was going to phone them yesterday (NW) , but no , He said to leave it till friday!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .............................And normally i dont listen to him :mad:

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It is up to the individual court - but try and stay calm, I think OFT will rule in our favour and hopefully the refund process will be a lot easier - just keep fingers crossed our courts will want to go ahead!

 

Are you ringing Nationwide?

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Well rung my court - still no defence submitted. Asked if judge had made a decision re yesterdays announcement - and to date nothing has changed. However, I can guarantee that Nationwide will defend and looks like I will have to do an allocation questionnaire which will cost £100 :(. Don't mind that as long as the judge continues with the case!

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Hi - yes I rang NW and they said that absolutely NO claims will be refunded as of today, but if you had a letter this week it still stands.

The bloke at NW said that ALL claims have been suspended - even the court ones - and that it's not up to the individual court to decide if the case continues as THEY are taking the OFT to court along with the other banks!!!!!!!!! :confused:

 

Dont know why it's any different for them to take the oft to court, than it is for us to take them to court?????? :confused:

 

I reckon they are pretty sure that they will win - cos he said that NO refunds will be given if the court rule in their favour :confused:

 

CONFUSED? I AM......................................................

 

Typical it happens just as my 28 days were well over - I think there should be some rule that if you've gone this far you should be paid!!!!

I'm begruding the blooming court fee now, as I've got nothing to show for it! Even if it does pay out it'll be too late for everything i was planning :mad:

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Well I cannot see how they can ignore the court - if the court decides to go ahead then surely Nationwide will have to deal with it! It may be an idea to do an individual thread and confirm what they have said to see if a moderator has any comments!

 

Yes I can understand it if, the court claim has not started yet but surely for the likes of us, it should still be able to go ahead.

 

I don't think they feel confident they are going to win - even if it is a partial refund some sort of refund should be given and yes I am very annoyed also at paying the court fee for this!!!!!!! They are not dealing with the general public but OFT!

 

Just wish I done it sooner seems very very unfair!

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I am really sorry for everyone in this mess.This is probably the worst thing that could have happened.A blanket halt to all claims regardless of how far into the process you are.I feel it would have been much better to let all cases in the court system proceed but not to allow any further new claims.

I hope the banks lose big time and refund everyone without anyone having to wait or indeed use any form of court dealings.

 

This will be my last post as I feel any further comments by me would be inapropriate as one of the last to get my charges refunded.I will continue to follow this thread with interest and watch out for judgement in favour of bank customers not the banks.

 

Needless to say I wish everyone well with charges and those looking forward to holidays and weddings.

Take care all

 

Paula (my name in the real world).

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Well Nationwide had until saturday to submit a defence - and got a letter today going on about the OFT court case but also said the following:-

 

You should be aware it is our intention to apply to the court for an order to stay your action until resolution of the bank's proceedings with the OFT. As a result your case is likely to be put on hold until the outcome of these proceeding is known.

 

Looks like I am at the judge's mercy

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I received my defense from the courts today.. states that Nationwide defends the claim usual blah blah... and a hand written note from the court saying I would hear from the court in due course. Didnt mention the test case or anything else. Looks like we'll have to wait now.:p

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Hiya pinkprincess

 

Thought it was about time i updated this site on my fight with good old NW :rolleyes:

 

I hadn't recieved any letters about stays from the NW or anything! Got back from my hols at the beginning of aug to see a letter from northampton court saying that my case had been transfered to leicester court.

 

But on the letter it gave them 14 days to apply for a stay. My letter was dated 26th july. Thought that I had to wait to hear from the court about dates and everything, but then thought i would re-read the letter.

Found after re-reading that the 14 days had been up a couple of days previously. whoowho i thought:)

 

Decided to ring leicester who then told me that NW had applied for a stay THAT morning:mad:

 

How come they can go over the allocated time slots????????????????

 

anywho............... when asked when they intended to let me know about this - horrid man told me 'when the post arrives'!!!!!!!!!! :evil:

 

To cut a long story short!! - he said that leicester county court ARE staying ALL bank cases :evil:

 

So that's it till the test case has finished apparently

 

Fill me in on how you are doing ok?

 

Laters

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Well I havnt heard anything about my court case as yet... I was told I would hear in due course and am still waiting also there is no info yet on whats happening at my local court with regards to staying all cases so will just have to wait and see... Keep us updated as and when you hear anything :p

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