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    • What do you guys think the chances are for her?   She followed the law, they didnt, then they engage in deception, would the judge take kindly to being lied to by these clowns? If we have a case then we should proceed and not allow these blatant dishonest cheaters to succeed 
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Just a thought redgemini ... did you just send the court a letter asking for judgement or a form and letter? I wrote to them at the end of June and it was only through constant pestering asking them what was happening that I was eventually told a Judgement form had to be completed.

 

Those who claim through MCOL apparently don't get this form, so we've no way of knowing.

 

If this is the case with you, maybe worth a mention to the court?

 

Good luck

 

Mimi x

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yes, we put in the order for judgement on abouth the 29/30th June - so heard nothing for over a month (got a cover letter from wragge saying that they had enclosed a copy of their letter to the court - which they hadn't!!)

then today got the notice of stay from the court - joy.

might give them a call & see what they say!

 

Did your wording about the appeal say you could appeal ( as others have?)~~## Stays info and guidance ##~~

 

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offer from A&L 24/8/07 - after case stayed

 

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Congratulations Mimi - thats fantastic news, and makes it all worthwhile and you so deserve it after all your hard work.

 

Now you can relax and daydream about how you might spend all your lovely money.

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Cheers Ollyicon7.gif

 

I actually claimed for my SIL, so the money's her's! My good deed for the year I think ... I am delighted for her as she so needs the moneyicon10.gif

 

Mimi x

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Hi there,

 

It was in my signature but, for some reason, it's disappeared:confused:

 

Anyway, no problem, here's the link :-

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/consumer-forums-website-questions/53182-cant-find-what-youre.html

 

I'd put it in your "favourites" ... it's invaluableicon7.gif

 

Mimi x

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Cheers mimijane your an angel!

Getting really frustrated now with my claim being stayed maybe if i had been a little quicker with thing i may have had a court date and it would still been going ahead:(

Thanks for all your advice, do you think the judge will pay any attention to my request?

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No idea I'm afraid about how the judge will treat your request ... all this is so new, but certainly no harm in trying. I would think the courts will get very familiar with all these requests in the next few weeks/months and, once again, it will depend entirely on the thoughts of your local judge.

 

Good luck and let us know how you get onicon7.gif

 

Mimi x

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SIL rang ...cheque now cleared and letter on the way to the court to "close" the case with another Wasted Costs schedule to the judge as a gentle reminder:rolleyes:

 

Let the celebrations begin .... icon10.gif

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Hi Mimi,

I just wondered how your claim for wasted costs has gone?

My case was settled and they have until Aug 30th to pay me. Do I wait until I have my money clears before claiming costs? Also the claim for wasted costs link you told me about has the template Judgement order and letter, but surely the Judgement order should be filled out by the court - I am a little confused.

Love KayX

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Hi Kay,

 

SIL's heard nothing re. wasted costs. We applied at the same time as judgement and also sent a reminder when asking the court to "close" her case when the cheque cleared.

 

I'm on my hols. soon, so will leave it 'til I get back and ring the court to see if they intend to do anything about it, if I can get hold of anyone who knows what they're doing of course (which is doubtful going on previous experiences:rolleyes:).

 

Just print off the Order and leave the relevant amounts/dates, etc. blank for the court to fill in, indicating what it is, i.e.

 

[date] ................

 

Hope this helps.

 

Mimi x

A-Z CAG links to all documents you'll need for

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Thanks again Mimi,

Hey just saw this, and thought you would be a great candidate to put your experiences in!

 

BBC Money Programme looking for claimants

The BBC Money Programme is making a film about bank charges.

We're investigating the current situation between the banks and the OFT examining at how it effects those still hoping to claim.

We'd like to hear your stories. Are you going to court in the next few weeks to claim back bank charges?

 

Do you know if your case will be heard or not?

Since the ruling on the 28th July have you had your case heard or been offered a settlement?

 

Would you be willing to speak to the BBC about your situation?

We'd like to film with someone currently in the process of trying to claim back their penalty charges.

 

We'd also like to hear from people who feel they've experienced intimidating behaviour from their bank after submitting a claim.

 

 

If any of the above apply to you and your willing to share your story, please contact

 

[email protected]

 

Love KayX

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Thanks for that!

 

Think it could be a little awkward though as I was claiming for my SIL and she had virtually no input! That probably wouldn't "qualify" me as a particularly good candidate. There's certainly no way she'd want to take part unfortunately:rolleyes:

 

Mimi x

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I agree ... would one of the mods. please move me please.

 

Mimi

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Mimi, are you back from your holidays? Hope you had a good time. I am curious how you got on with claiming costs as I have had mine thrown out:( !! Stil I am grateful for what I got, especially as it was in the "nick" of time.

Love Kx

P.S. We miss you.

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Hi Kay,

 

Good to hear from you! Yes, back from my hols. a couple of weeks ago. Been keeping a vague eye on the forums, but not contributed much recently as I don't feel I can at the moment with all these staysicon9.gif

 

Sorry to hear you had your application thrown out ... it just doesn't seem fairicon9.gif. My SIL had a letter from the court about a week ago rejecting the information application and stating that she can apply formally if she wishes (no detail was given in the letter as to how she should do this).

 

I rang the court and did my homework on this site. Apparently it now costs £65 to apply on the N244 form according to the court. There would be a definite court appearance, no guarantee of anything back and quite a bit more work for me from the looks of things. We agreed we'd leave it and put the whole thing to bed ... there's no way I could put SIL through a court appearance and expect her to "learn" everything we submitted to put forward her case.

 

It is a shame as I spent some time on the informal application, but there's a lot going on in her life at the moment as a result of her husband's death and she's really not up to it.

 

Like you though, I'm delighted I managed to get her the money just before the stays were put in place and the fact she got some charges back we shouldn't have gone for goes some way towards making up for not claiming for wasted costs.

 

Good to know I'm missed ...icon12.gif

 

Mimi xx

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