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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
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sorry about that its australian default fees report 2004 just found it and had a quick scan through , makes really interesting reading definately be using it in court bundle , the link on here no longer works to get to it but if anyone needs it here is link

http://www.consumeraction.org.au/downloads/DL56.pdf

hope this helps someone else ninety plus pages though be prepared !!!!

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Rung York County Courts today and they said my claim is with the judge be back tomorrow so faxed across draft directions to them and asked if this was ok they said no problem when i explained that due to no allocation questionaire it was a bit confusing as to when to send in directions, they said it will be added to my case and sent up to judge but no cases were now being referred from them to leeds as the judges at York are now sick of banks not turning up so they are allocating in batches of 100 and all being heard together so hope this is good news .Faxed across copy of directions to SC&M also as i think this is what i'm supposed to do , hope this is all right anyone help with what to do now and if this is correct , moral support be really appreciated getting a bit wobbly now , its getting really close now !!!!!

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Lisa

 

Keep your nerve. Sounds like the Judge has had enough of the banks?

 

If the bank don't show, which is likely, will the judge simply find in your favour?

 

Hope so!

 

Good luck!!

 

T.

"Weasel (n): any person or group that operates in that vast grey area between good ethical behaviour and the sort of activities that might send you to jail".

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the guy i spoke to said that nearly all had been settled before date due but that those that hadn't had not been lost so i am hoping that is the case , yes and he did say that the judges there are fed up so i hope this is a good sign after the decision on kevin at birmingham this is what has got me wobbling and do you know if i was right to send a copy of draft directions to SC&M anyone ??

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please help with this i know i'm twitting on but have i done the right thing sending a copy of draft directions to SC&M , and does anyone think it will help to ring and see if they have received it just to nudge them ?

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Lisa

 

Sorry - work got in the way for a bit!

 

As long as the Court got your Draft Order for Directions you're OK.

 

If it were to be issued by the Judge (maybe ...) then the Defendant (the bank and the solicitors) would each get a copy directly from the Court.

 

Whether it's issued or not, just hang in there.

 

Good luck!

 

T.

"Weasel (n): any person or group that operates in that vast grey area between good ethical behaviour and the sort of activities that might send you to jail".

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well still not even heard from york courts after case referred to them 16th may , 18 days ago no date , no letter , no nothing , nice lady there said judge got it on 19th may , but seems a long time , any ideas on how long this can take ?

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Well no letter from courts but wait for it , yes got a letter from SC&M they have offered to settle in full with interest and costs , yes this is absolutely fantastic I am so pleased , so everyone else keep up your chin and keep on with the fight , lisa

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will gladly make a donation as soon as i receive cheque from them will post back letter registered next day today and let you know on time scale for payment and would like to say thanks so much to everyone on here for all their help and support , couldn't have done it without you , but i did hassle SC&M a little with letters in last week or two don't know if that helped sent copy of draft directions so that may have sped things up anyway don't care what it was just that i'm going to rome in three weeks and may be able to buy a lovely designer something now , again thanks lisa

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Morning Lively, Can you go for the wasted costs order even if you didn't have to do a bundle. I (may) have won by default but they didn't respond to letters, forced me to get a warrant etc.

Barclays - 2 Accounts - WON

Capital 1 - WON with CI

LTSB - WON

LTSB pre 6 years - N1 for non compliance filed

Barclays pre 6 years - Prelim sent

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Sorry Lisa, forgot to add my congratulations:)

Barclays - 2 Accounts - WON

Capital 1 - WON with CI

LTSB - WON

LTSB pre 6 years - N1 for non compliance filed

Barclays pre 6 years - Prelim sent

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Congratulations Lisa. Settlement without court date? That's really good news.

I've got a court date in July. Have sent nudge letters but still nothing. Didn't go for draft directions as timescale was a bit tight and other things were happening at home. Maybe this was a mistake. Anyway, am sending one last letter today.

Was your claim for both bounces and when they had honoured payments which then made you overdrawn?

broke dave v LTSB WON £3840 2 weeks before court.

Mrs broke dave v Barclays accepted offer £355.

broke dave v LTSB (Business) Prelim stage.

broke dave v LTSB (2nd Claim) LBA stage.

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thanks very much guys am not sure about wasted costs if i can do it or nor , livelylad help on this one ? also should i wait till i have cheque safely on board or not , have posted acceptance letter this morning registered next day , so be there tomorrow , my other half gone away for ten days four this morning so not shared the news yet as he's riding his motorbike till dinner going to spain for motogp , so thats a bit of nice news for him too ! if anyone can help on wasted costs would be grateful , lisam

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yes was for both dave but i think that ringing them helps as well i spoke to a robert bushe and he was really nice might be worth a try to ring them and ask if they have considered your settlement proposals and if not can they please consider and forward to lloyds to consider as they make the decision so they said , this worked for me , lisa

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I noticed you faxed them as well. Have you got the fax number?

broke dave v LTSB WON £3840 2 weeks before court.

Mrs broke dave v Barclays accepted offer £355.

broke dave v LTSB (Business) Prelim stage.

broke dave v LTSB (2nd Claim) LBA stage.

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