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Hi Jon Cris,

 

I have copied from their email. The questions are mine... the answers are theirs. At the end, she is clearly getting a biy sh*tty about it.... :mad: . Fighting DCAs is one thing, but I didn't bank on having to fight the bodies that are supposed to protect out interests !

 

I acknowledge receipt of your further e-mail which we received on the 8th August 2007 in which you have asked for clarification of the following points:

1. Global Debt Management Services Limited are permitted to process data on behalf of a parent company, even though they are both registered as separate Limited companies? Why does their Limited status have no relevance here?

It is possible for a company to be registered as a separate limited company and yet only conduct processing on behalf of another organisation. Many debt collection companies fall into this category. As previously explained when an organisation only processes data on another organisations behalf and only acts on the instructions of this other organisation they do not need to be register separately for the purposes of the Data Protection Act 1998.

2. This processing of data is allowed to take place at a completely different address from the parent company? I understood that (non-limited) companies who shared a licence needed to be registered at the same address. This was not the case from 2002 until 2005.

Under the Data Protection Act 1998 there is no need for an organisation working on behalf of another organisation to be registered at the same address. This is not a matter we can advise you on further.

3. Payments are shown on bank statements as being credited to Global Debt Management Services Limited in their own right.... despite their registration as a dormant company; receiving no income.

As we have previously explained to you we can only look at your complaint in terms of the Data Protection Act 1998. Concerns about whether a company is trading whilst registered as a dormant company fall outside of our remit. Further complaints of this nature should be directed to Companies House at the following address:

Main Office

Companies House

Crown Way

Maindy

Cardiff

CF14 3UZ

4. The account also showed a NIL balance with Alliance & Leicester before being passed to Global suggesting a tax advantage, before payments continued to be processed by their separate Limited in-house company, in their own name.

Complaints that organisations are trading in a way which gives them a tax advantage fall outside of our remit. If you believe that maladministration has taken place we would suggest that you contact the Financial Ombudsman Service for further advice at the address below who may be able to assist you further.

The Financial Ombudsman Service

South Quay Plaza

183 Marsh Wall

London E14 9SR

5. I would appreciate you pointing me towards the relevant legislation that says that all of the above is completely legitimate.

As explained above the queries you have raised relate to legislation which falls outside of our remit and you would need to pursue these complaints with the relevant regulator.

Further information on notification under the Data Protection Act 1998 can be found by accessing the following link.

http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/library/data_protection/forms/notification_exemptions_-_self-assessment_guide.pdf

If you follow the questions in this publication you will see that Global Debt Management Services did not have to register whilst they were working purely on behalf of Alliance and Leicester as they would have answered No to question 3 as they were not a data controller.

We have now on three occasions advised you why Global Debt Collections did not need to be notified with us before June 2007 and why we are unable to assist you further with this matter. Any further correspondence we receive from you which does not raise what we consider to be new data protection issues will be held on your file but will remain unanswered.

Yours sincerely

Victoria Byrne

Casework and Advice Officer

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Well, after months of promising to send me an example of what my Agreement would look like, if they had one..... they appear to have sold this account to Fenton Cooper.... part of the Tessera bunch.... who have been known to handle A&L accounts on here before.

 

Received a 'phone call out of the blue last week.... where they attempted to get me to go through security on the grounds of having a "personal issue" that they needed to discuss. Didn't recognise the company, which is why I gave them my time.... until they mentioned "security questions" and then cottoned on.... so refused. ;) End of conversation.

 

Appropriate letter being drafted up today....

 

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Hi PriorityOne remember me, you gave me lots of help regarding a A & L making a charge on the property. They stated that they could not produce an original CCA. They are now for the second time taking it to court beginning of October.

Just wondered if there was anything I could do.

Thanks and good luck

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Hi again Bach.... yes, I do remember you. :)

 

If they haven't got a CCA.... then there's nothing to re-enforce. I seem to remember that they took you to court before and almost got a CCJ by default. If this is the same account, then they need to be reminded that the request was received on xx/xx/2007 and they are in serious default. Non-compliance of a CCA request is a complete defence.

 

Is this just a threat or have they sent court papers to you ? If you haven't already done so, start a new thread on this one and I'll find you.

 

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Hi Great to hear from you

Yes the same account and I have received papers from the Court with 4th October for the hearing. I have it in writing that they were unable to produce the original signed aggrement. Ill start a new thread so rry to gate crash you but I was so pleased to find you.

Thanks again

lynn

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Ok, back to business. My finished draft.... comments/edits welcome, otherwise it goes off tomorrow.

 

I do not acknowledge any debt to your company.

 

A request for my Consumer Credit Agreement (Consumer Credit Act, 1974) was received by Global Debt Management Services Limited; a subsidiary company of Alliance & Leicester, on 4th January 2007. Since they are now in serious default of a legal request, I can only assume that Alliance & Leicester have either failed to inform you before supplying instructions to contact me or, have failed to inform you before your purchase of this account; in which case, they would not be your clients in the sense that you imply.

 

Since Alliance & Leicester have already confirmed to me in writing that no such Agreement exists and that all legal action was dropped some time ago, I suggest that you liaise with them before contacting me again. In the meantime, please be aware that no action can be taken against a disputed account and this includes the following :

 

You/your “client” may not demand any payment on the account, nor am I obliged to offer any payment to you.

 

You/your “client” may not add any further interest or charges to the account.

 

You/your “client” may not pass the account to any third party.

 

You/your “client” may not register any information in respect of the account with any of the credit reference agencies.

 

You/your “client” may not issue a default notice related to the account.

 

In addition, please also be aware that your recent telephone call and letter to my home could, under the Administration of Justice Act 1970 section 40, be construed as unlawful harassment in the absence of such an Agreement. As you have claimed (in your letter) to “have been instructed” by Alliance & Leicester, please also note that any court claim regarding harassment would be brought against both Alliance & Leicester and yourselves, should this be necessary; since you would be complicit in this action.

 

You may therefore consider this letter a statutory notice under Section 10 of the Data Protection Act, 1998 to cease processing any data in relation to this account with immediate effect. This means you must remove all information regarding this account from your own internal records and from my records with any credit reference agencies. Should you refuse to comply, you must within 14 days provide me with a detailed breakdown of your reasoning behind continuing to process my data. It is not sufficient to simply state that you have a legal right, you must outline your reasoning in this matter and state upon which legislation this reasoning depends.

 

I look forward to a favourable response within 14 days of the date of this letter; informing me that on this occasion you have made a genuine mistake and that your files are now closed. Failure to respond favourably however, will result in me reporting this matter to Trading Standards, Office of Fair Trading, The Financial Crime Branch of HM Treasury and any other authorities as I see fit.

 

I look forward to your reply in due course.

 

Yours faithfully,

 

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Blinking fuming !! :mad:

 

Another 'phone call.... by a young girl from this new bunch of chancers.... who immediatelky launched into me owing an outstanding debt to A&L. When questioned about security, she answered that the law had changed and she didn't need to go through security any more !!.... and anyway, she was passing me on to someone else. "Actually no, you're not... there's a letter in the post", I said and hung up.

 

Was so angry... that I emailed a copy across there and then !!! :mad: The hard copy will still arrive by Rec. Delivery...

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Can you believe this ? :mad: It's now been passed to Mack Hall !!.... a payslip version of the old "postcard" trick, asking me to contact them because of a burning desire to talk to me URGENTLY about something before tomorrow... or the world will end, I suppose.... lol.

 

In the file it goes.... :D .... let's see what they do next....

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Well... nothing more from MHall.... or anyone else.

 

Had to laugh today though.... Had a letter from A&L land on the mat and on opening it, found a junk mail letter inviting me to take out a loan to consolidate existing loans and credit cards !!..... LMFAO !!! :lol: :lol:

 

I did notice that the invitation was for a secured loan though.... lol. :cool:

 

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Congratulations P1.:D

The Consumer Action Group is a free help site.

Should you be offered help that requires payment please report it to site team.

Advice & opinions given by Caro are personal, are not endorsed by Consumer Action Group or Bank Action Group, and are offered informally, without prejudice & without liability. Your decisions and actions are your own, and should you be in any doubt, you are advised to seek the opinion of a qualified professional.

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Hi Priority, Congratulations, really well deserved you,ve worked so hard at this, Im so thrilled for you. Just shows what we can achieve does'nt it

:D Wishing you a Happy & Prosperou New Year

 

Lv Lynn x

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CONGRATULATIONS P1 :D

When you want to fool the world, tell the truth. :D

Advice & opinions of Janet-M are offered informally, without prejudice & without liability. Use your own judgment. Seek advice of a qualified insured professional if you have any

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