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By occysrazor · Posted
Hi all, thanks for the feedback. I have now made the final amends and included the supporting evidence in this final version of the WS / court bundle. Attached is the redacted version of this final WS / court bundle. If there is any further feedback, please do let me know. If not, I will get 2 copies printed for posting - 1 to the court and the other to Evri. Final Draft - Witness Statement and Court Bundle redacted.pdf -
Redacted Defence 1.pdfRedacted Defence 1.pdf Redacted Defence 2.pdf -
You can only get a CCJ if you lose the case and then stick two fingers up to the court and refuse to pay. Even in the very, very unlikely event of you losing, as long as you paid within the 30 days ordered by the court you wouldn't get a CCJ. But you've come here very late and we need the sticky filling in please.
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They sent their bilge out far too late to establish keeper liability. You're in the clear. Simply ignore them until you get a Letter of Claim. This is a scam site. It's been shown up to be a scam site in the national press and on national TV. MET don't want their scam to be exposed in court so they huff & puff but then bottle it when it comes to doing court or not. We have around 140 cases here. MET have started court claims only seven times, and even then it was a tactic to see if the motorist was terrified of going to court and would give in. When the Caggers defended, MET discontinued the cases. But make sure to come back here if you get a Letter of Claim.
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The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.
Frankly I don't think that is any accident.
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