Premier/Gladstones ANPR PCN Letter Of Claim - 6 minutes in queue to get change - appeals refused - Planet Ice, Milton Keynes

[FTMDave]

56 minutes ago, AOLA said:

No, I don’t believe I still got a ticket. Why do you ask?

It was just a vague idea to see if they'd told the truth about the purchase time.  No big deal.

 

52 minutes ago, AOLA said:

I”m now thinking to go after these greedy people and what damages / compensations i can claim. 

Sorry, not possible.  They were entitled to get your details from the DVLA and they were entitled to write to you.  Indeed you encouraged contact by sending communication after communication.

[AOLA]

They have broken GDPR by circulating/in effect sold my details to 3rd parties, they touched my wife's and mine mental health/stress disorder where we couldn’t sleeping properly over 8 months period. 

Are you quite sure that is impossible or you are not aware of that anybody tried to go after these people??

[dx100uk]

no they haven't broken GDPR, there are no sold detail. under GDPR they are quite entitled to employ Debt collectors and any other agency to chase their 'debt'

 

the courts are not there to act as feelings police. re:

7 minutes ago, AOLA said:

they touched my wife's and mine mental health/stress disorder where we couldn’t sleeping properly over 8 months period. 

 

there are many successful GDPR cases here already against PPC's for nominal sums, but i cant see yours falls within a breach.

 

about time you went back and found where you parked and found the ANPR system that got you.

 

 

 

[AOLA]

Thanks for your comments.

Sorry what about the anpr system?

 

unfortunately, I cann’t find on the net anything about that location and install cams. 

[dx100uk]

On 05/09/2022 at 22:09, AOLA said:

Did you mean threatogram by letter such this, please see the attached.

26082022-Cover letter.pdf 127.71 kB · 7 downloads

 

this was def an anpr .....cover letter says so.

 

 

[AOLA]

So what are we trying to look at with re this cam?

Edited January 22, 2023 by dx100uk
unnecessary previous post quote removed

[dx100uk]

please stop hitting quote...

makes a thread twice as long and difficult on phones to see where your reply begins.

 

not needed now as the above letter confirms it WAS ANPR capture in writing so we know which direction we are arguing from if this goes further. timing and grace periods will be everything now going fwd.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[AOLA]

Not sure I understand you right. 
there is no case. As the vehicle has left the car park and there no start evidence when its re entered, judge will dismiss the case as there are not enough evidences. Is that right?

 

In addition, do you still think I should send both snotty letters to PPL and GS?

[dx100uk]

yes by the 7th feb was it not, bit early yet..

 

as you/we dont know physically where the ANPR gate IS that you passed through (poss twice, in/outx2), we dont know if this is a case of what we call 'double-dipping' .

in those circumstances they take the 1st entry and the last exit, giving wrong stay timings.

 

dx

 

 

[FTMDave]

5 hours ago, AOLA said:

In addition, do you still think I should send both snotty letters to PPL and GS?

Of course!

[AOLA]

Exactly dx!
so if that is the case, how this can be awarded?  
Sure by re-entering parking the new consideration 5 mins should be applying? 

[dx100uk]

we dont know, no good guessing

we need to find where that ANPR capture system is.

google nor other sat/aerial maps appear to have any upto date images that match the furniture around your car from what i can see

[AOLA]

Thanks dx,

I will try to find and update tomorrow. 
thanks guys!

[AOLA]

Good evening guys,

 

Good news i managed to pool out the image and describe the view, as goodle only making views from main roads. Anyway, I've also put discriptions so that you can see the position of my car when picture was taken. Its clear that I am just entering paring zone.

 

Do you still think PPL/SG have a ground to arguing this case?

 

Thanks in advance for your comments.

aola 

 

Image_taken_driving_in.pdf

[dx100uk]

please stop using docx !!! all you res details are in file info/properties, use save as select .PDF and under options remove pers info.

done for you as several times before on your uploads

 

now, where is this on your 1st map please

and what website did you get the mapping details at. i'd like to look too.

 

dx

 

[AOLA]

Thanks dx. 
 

both image and map was taken from google. Just type mk91dl planet ice. For the image its via street viewer. 
 

Just as a curiosity, why do you need to check what I sent earlier? You don’t believe me or is there something else I’ve missed?

 

aola

[dx100uk]

On 24/07/2022 at 17:26, AOLA said:

PPL explanation:

This payment was for the duration of 4 hours and expired at 14:49.

As per the BPA Code of Practice and our signage, we allow motorists 5 minutes to enter the car park, read the signage, decide if they can comply and if not, exit the car park prior to a PCN being issued.

 

As per the BPA Code of Practice, we do allow motorists 10 minutes to exit the car park after their payment has expired. On this occasion, your vehicle exited the car park at 14:48, 1 minute prior to the payment expiring, therefore this 10-minute grace period was not required.

Premier Park Ltd do not have CCTV cameras at this location, therefore we were unaware of why your vehicle remained on site for a period of 11 minutes prior to making payment.

Upon making payment, you would have been aware of the period of time taken from entering to making payment, therefore, you should have ensured you exited the car park 11 minutes prior to your payment expiring, or purchased the next tariff up, “Up to 6 hours” to ensure the whole period of parking was paid for.

 

from your very 1st post....

 

now we have found the place. the above is utter bs.

 

the experts will explain why 

[FTMDave]

14 hours ago, AOLA said:

Do you still think PPL/SG have a ground to arguing this case?

Well, they've never taken any Cagger to court in a Planet Ice case.

 

And you didn't overstay.

[AOLA]

Thank you guys for your comments. It means a lot to me. 
 

I’ll send letters this week to PPL & GS. 
 

Aola

[AOLA]

Hi guys,

hope you are all well. 
as per your suggestions, I’ve sent both copies of snotty letters to Premier Park ltd and GS last week. 
We will how they will react from now on. 
Thank you all for your support and advises. 
 

kind regards,

aola

[FTMDave]

Hopefully you will never hear from them ever again.

[AOLA]

Fingers crossed, hey

[AOLA]

Response from GS_A.pdf

 

Good evening Guys, my apologies for keep step-in and out of the chat.

 

Just received another letter on 6/04/2023 from Gladstone Solicitor's, like they haven't received my letter back in Jan'23.

Shall I just ignored them?

 

Thanks in advance for your recommendations.

 

 

 

 

[dx100uk]

safe to ignore

[AOLA]

thanks once again, dx!