ParkingEye PCN - lease car - 11 mins stay - KFC Ellesemere Centre, Walkden

[Moey8]

Hi CAG,

 

I received a PCN for an 11-minute stay in the KFC car park (8:50am - 9:01am) on May 30. It seems this place is known to some people on this site. I have completed the questionnaire information and attached a pdf of the PCN. The PCN was received on June 15, presumably a little late as it's a lease car and the paperwork arrived via the lease company.

 

I was not aware of the car park restrictions and briefly parked up to drink a coffee (purchased from the drive-through McDonald's, next door). For an 11-minute stay at a time when the KFC was shut I find the fine of £100 (£60 if paid within 14-days) excessive and any assistance is most appreciated. 

 

Thanks

 

1 Date of the infringement

30/05/2021
 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date]

02/06/2021

 

3 Date received

15/06/2021 (received via lease company)
 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?]

Yes
 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event?

Yes (arrival/departure times)
 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal]

No
 

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up

Give answer here
 

7 Who is the parking company?

Parking Eye [edited - HB]

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town]

KFC Ellesmere Centre, Walkden, Manchester M28 3ZD
 

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under.

POPLA

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[Moey8]

Thanks for the helpful suggestions everyone and thanks for spotting that part of the PCN was missing. I have now attached this so people can see the Parking Charge Information. 

 

I will take a look at the car park signage later today and post pictures on here. In the meantime I will sit tight until/if I receive a letter of claim.

 

Thanks

 

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Edited June 18, 2021 by FTMDave
Thread tidied

[Moey8]

Hello,

 

I've nipped down to the car park today and taken photos of the signage (attached).

 

There are two entrances to the car park.

 

Image 1 shows the sign for the first entrance.

I entered in the other entrance (image 2) displaying s small yellow sign advising the car park is for the use of KFC customers.

 

Once you enter the car park there is a larger sign with more information (Image 3).

 

This is not visible until you are inside the car park as the sign is facing the opposite way to the other two.

 

Thanks

 

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[Moey8]

Thanks for everyones help. Will update if/when I receive a letter of claim from PE.

[Moey8]

Hi Everyone,

 

On May 30th 2021 I received a PCN for an 11-minute stay in the KFC Walkden car park (8:50am - 9:01am). See above for details.

 

After receiving the excellent advice on here and not having received a letter of claim from PE I assumed the matter was closed, especially given that it was from over a year ago. However, I have today received a letter from Direct Collection Bailiffs (DCBL) title ‘Notice of Debt Recovery – Unpaid Parking Charge of £170’ and instructed to make a payment within 14-days. 

 

Any advice on how to proceed/react to this letter is gratefully appreciated.

 

Thanks
 

[Moey8]

Thanks for the previous  advice.

 

Since the letter referred to in my last post, I have received three further letters.

 

The first was a 'final reminder', followed by a 'Final notice of debt recovery'.

 

Today I received the latest titled, 'Notice of intended legal action'.

 

I have not responded to any of these, nor the original ones a year ago.

 

I'm just seeking reassurance that I should continue ignoring these letters from DCBL?

 

Thanks

[Moey8]

Thanks dx. So, am I correct in saying this is not a 'letter of claim' and I do not need to respond to DCBL?

[Moey8]

Direct Collection Bailiffs Ltd.

 

The latest letter is a 'Notice of Intended Legal Action', which I presume is different to a 'Letter of Claim'?

[Moey8]

Thanks for the advice Dx and agreed on the self help prompt - taken on board and will view more posts in future before asking a question 

[Moey8]

Hi All,

 

Letter of Claim (attached) has now been received from DCB Legal on behalf of Parkingeye. I presume it's snotty letter time so will have a look through some examples on here for inspiration!

LoC.pdf

[Moey8]

Thanks for the advice guys. I have plagiarised a couple of snotty letter from similar sounding cases on here and come up with the below. @lookinforinfo I presume leave out the PoFA stuff for now? Any advice/tinkering to the letter is appreciated:

 

Re. PCN number xxxx

 

Dear DCB Legal,   Cheers you for the rather laughable Letter of Claim, regarding the speculative invoice sent out without consideration to the current codes of practice laid out by UK Law and your clients own governing bodies.   There is absolutely no intention of contributing to your healthy income by paying the sum mentioned to your client, Parkingeye. It’s ridiculous that you believe people will fall for this type of nonsense. Regarding the £70 Unicorn Food Tax, here is some homework for you and your greedy clients. Go and look up Point 9 of the government's Code of Practice. Good luck getting away with that one in front of a judge! I can assure you I will certainly not be doing so, as I am fully aware your claim has no basis in law, please do some research and read up on this!   I could go on, but I have better things to do with my time. In conclusion, I am not paying these daft claims, and I will not be responding to any more of these harassment letters unless you wish to waste the court's time, where I shall be sure to request an unreasonable costs order under CPR 27.14(2)(g).   COPIED TO CIVIL ENFORCEMENT LTD

 

 

[Moey8]

@FTMDave thanks for that! I will amend my letter and invest in two 2nd class stamps and post to both DCBL and Parkingeye in a couple of weeks, making sure to get free certificate of posting for both. Will update the forum on next stage when I get anything further.