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I just want them to refund the money and close the matter I am not at all happy they just dont refund when they have not provided the service, so where do I stand as far as this goes as they clearly want to let the Judge make the order

 

Ours Is Leicester County Court They are in Nottingham BankFodder, we requested Leicester I think they wanted the application dismissed as they have stated they do not want to mediate or attend to give evidence in the response below

 

 

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OH sorry I thought it was easier please can above be removed I will do this now, the Defendants response was received on 7 October 

 

We asked for the matter to proceed on 8 October 2020

 

The Notice of transfer was received on 12 October 2020

 

I have nothing else 

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apologies I will only post up PDF now, I have removed the other files

1 minute ago, BankFodder said:

You still haven't addressed the question about the directions questionnaire and whether there was an opportunity to ask for other orders to be made.

There was no opportunity offered just what I have posted up

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I have not been given any other details, they only asked it I wanted to continue with the claim and I answered the question about witnesses etc this was posted up when I submitted this, above

 

I will post up their response they refused mediation please bear with me

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Thank you BankFodder and Andyorch, I will of course wait for the advice to be finalised, I will prepare the file of the documents and post up the ones which are relevant

 

Contract 

Payment from my account to them

CMA guidelines from April 2020 and September 2020

Requests for refund

Email refusing Refund in May 2020

Email to defendant requesting refund, September 2020

CMA guidelines dated 7 September 2020

Letter before claim September 2020 (no Response) 

Proof of delivery of above letter

Letter from Defendant (marked without prejudice subject to agreement) 23 September 2020

email to Defendant for adding third party rights October 15 2020

Their response dated today.

 

Please can I be advised if there are other documents I need to add and any relevant legislation, I will be back online Thursday as I am at work all  day tomorrow and until 13.00 Thursday then working from home.

 

Thank you

 

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Hi Andyrorch and BankFodder

 

I have just read up the posts, I am confused as to what to do, please can I be advised which route to go finally and how this is done, based on the advices to date.

 

I will be able to look into this tomorrow as I am off work most of the day tomorrow after 3pm

 

Thank you

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Thank you BankFodder 

 

Please can Andyorch advise me how to make the application and what to attach I will send this off tomorrow after 3pm, I can post up the final version here of what I need to send and send this on Monday if I know what I am required to do and what I now need to send to the Court to deal with this matter fully

 

Thank you so much to you both

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Thank you Andyorch and BankFodder I will go through this now, Please advise if I need to repost it up or just copy and amend the form with the details and send it off Tomorrow I can attch the Pdf version tomorrow, also the claim amount plus costs and Interest are higher than in the amended notice, should i include the figure in the claim or leave it at £7700 and just add the name of my Daughter

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I will await the final confirmation tomorrow I also attach the Draft Order, please can these be checked Andyorch and BankFodder before I submit these online tomorrow I of course will amend the details to add the names etc before I send this.

In the Leicester county court Claim No. ...

Before District Judge ………

Dated 23//10 20…

Claimant/s

Mrs XXXXXXX

 

and Defendant

Goosedale

Draft Order

 

 

IT IS ORDERED THAT: 1. . Pursuant to CPR 19.4.1 and CPR 19.2.2 (a) it is requested that a second claimant Mrs xxxxxx be added to this claim. It is desirable to add the new party so that the court can resolve all the matters in dispute in the proceedings. 2. The proposed amended particulars of claim be reserved Pursuant to Practice Direction 19 ( 2.1 ) ###### End of Order ######

 

 

Amended Particulars of claim for N1.

 

The claimant and second claimant joinder seek reimbursement of £7700 paid to the defendant on XXX date 2019 in respect of a frustrated contract for a wedding venue booked for the XX date 2020 and which was cancelled by the defendant as a result of implementing government restrictions in respect of Covid 19 Legislation.The principle claimant makes this claim pursuant to Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999. The defendant has refused to refund the contract price. The claimant seeks £7700 plus interest plus costs.

 

 

N244_web_0818 COMPE.pdf

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One further clarification, My daughter was married at a simple service with 10 people, on 4 October 2020, he name has since changed and do we include the old Surname or new Surname with her name in brackets for Service and will I need to get any letter from her too, as I will get this too if its needed to add her?

 

Thank you I will be online again after 13pm tomorrow

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Thank you Andy no nothing has changed its still the same for £7700 I was going to include the interest and costs, but I understand the claim now a little better, we have been told to work from home, I have printed off the N244 as I could not save a copy I have detailed everything as stated.

 

I will post up the two letters to be attached the defendants and my daughters, can ii add that she gives me permission to represent her in court as she will be abroad when the claim goes to Court I can get a witness statement from her to confirm this too.

 

So with the application N244 completed as above for £7700 plus costs and interest

I will attache my daughters letter as detailed under Sec 19 (2.1)

Defendants letter giving no objections 

 

I will send this by email tonight after I have finished work

 

I attach the N244 AND Letter and the defendants letter below in order as I complete each step

 

Thank you I will send these via email to the Court after 13.00hrs

cag N244.pdf

 

draft order

 

Leicester County Court

County Court

90 Wellington Street

Leicester

LE1 6HG

 

In the Leicester county court Claim, No 164MC057

Before District Judge McClure

Dated 23//10 2020

Claimant/s

Mrs XXXXXX

Mrs xxxxxxxxxxx  (nee xxxxxx xxxxxx)

and Defendant

Goosedale Ltd T/A Goosedale

Draft Order

IT IS ORDERED THAT: 1. Pursuant to CPR 19.4.1 and CPR 19.2.2 (a) it is requested that a second claimant xxxxxxxxxxx be added to this claim. It is desirable to add the new party so that the court can resolve all the matters in dispute in the proceedings. 2. The proposed amended particulars of claim be reserved Pursuant to Practice Direction 19 (2.1)

###### End of Order ######

Amended Particulars of claim for N1.

The claimant and second claimant joinder seek reimbursement of £7700 paid to the defendant on XXX date 2019 in respect of a frustrated contract for a wedding venue booked for the XX date 2020 and which was cancelled by the defendant as a result of implementing government restrictions in respect of Covid 19 Legislation. The principle claimant makes this claim pursuant to Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999. The defendant has refused to refund the contract price. The claimant seeks £7700 plus interest plus costs.

 

 

daughters confirmation

 

Claim number: 164MC057

Leicester County Court
County Court
90 Wellington Street
LEICESTER
LE1 6HG

23 October 2020

 

                               MRS XXXXXXXX v GOOSEDALE LTD T/A GOOSEDALE

Dear Sir/Madam

In accordance with and under Rule 19.2(4)1, I confirm I have no objections that the District Judge allows myself XXXXXXX (nee XXXXXX to be added to the Claim Number 164MC057 in addition to my mother, Mrs XXXXXXXXX

I certify and sign this letter to confirm that I am entitled to be added to the claim under the rules above. I also confirm that I would like my mother XXXXXXX to represent me at any Hearings in this matter as Claimant and deal with the issue, proceedings and claim including enforcement.

 

Yours faithfully

 

 

 

GOOSEDALE LETTER 

CAG GOOSEDALE LETTER.pdf

 

Hi Andyorch and BankFodder I have now completed all the steps I just need to have the final approval to submit after checking, I really do thank you all so much and when the matter is resolved I will proceed to send in a donation for all your assistance as I WOULD NEVER have got to this stage without you all at the FORUM

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Leicester County Court

County Court

90 Wellington Street

Leicester

LE1 6HG

 

In the Leicester county court Claim, No 164MC057

Before District Judge McClure

Dated 23//10 2020

Claimant/s

Mrs XXXXXX

Mrs XXXXXX

and Defendant

Goosedale Ltd T/A Goosedale

Draft Order

IT IS ORDERED THAT: 1. Pursuant to CPR 19.4.1 and CPR 19.2.2 (a) it is requested that a second claimant Mrs XXXXX be added to this claim. It is desirable to add the new party so that the court can resolve all the matters in dispute in the proceedings. 2. The proposed amended particulars of claim be reserved Pursuant to Practice Direction 19 (2.1)

###### End of Order ######

Amended Particulars of claim for N1.

The claimant and second claimant joinder seek reimbursement of £7700 paid to the defendant on 19 April date 2019 in respect of a frustrated contract for a wedding venue for 350 Guests booked for the 23 May 2020 and which was cancelled by the defendant as a result of implementing government restrictions in respect of Covid 19 Legislation. The principle claimant makes this claim pursuant to Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999. The defendant has refused to refund the contract price. The claimant seeks £7700 plus interest and costs.

 

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redone letter from my daughter

Claim number: 164MC057

Leicester County Court
County Court
90 Wellington Street
LEICESTER
LE1 6HG

23 October 2020

 

                               MRS XXXXXX v GOOSEDALE LTD T/A GOOSEDALE

Dear Sir/Madam

In accordance with and under Rule 19.2(4)1, I confirm I have no objections that the District Judge allows myself xxxxxxx xxxxxx (neee xxx) to be added to the Claim Number 164MC057 in addition to my mother, Mrs xxxxxxxx

.

I certify and sign this letter to confirm that I am entitled to be added to the claim under the rules above.

 

Yours faithfully

 

 

 

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (nee xxxxxx)
2nd Claimant

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This is the changed N244 i will complete fully once approved and sign off and put in names etc Andy

N244 - Application notice (08.18) draft cag.pdf

 

My Daughter has not formally changed her name she just advises its still on old name so do I put down old name sorry this is so confusing for me too

 

or should I continue with her new Surname and add Nee 

 

Leicester County Court

County Court

90 Wellington Street

Leicester

LE1 6HG

 

In the Leicester county court Claim, No 164MC057

Before District Judge McClure

Dated 23//10 2020

Claimant/s

Mrs XXXXXX

Mrs XXXXXX

and Defendant

Goosedale Ltd T/A Goosedale

Draft Order

IT IS ORDERED THAT: 1. Pursuant to CPR 19.4.1 and CPR 19.2.2 (a) it is requested that a second claimant Mrs XXXXX be added to this claim. It is desirable to add the new party so that the court can resolve all the matters in dispute in the proceedings. 2. The proposed amended particulars of claim be reserved Pursuant to Practice Direction 19 (2.1)

###### End of Order ######

 

This is the final version

 

Please can I be advised can I send this all by email or should it be copied and sent with a Cheque for £100 made payable to Leicester County Court 

 

Thank you

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Thanks Andy I will send via Recorded delivery later today, I have done the above letter too, and will send everything by 4 PM I can confirm I have amended the form and removed 6 and 9a too

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