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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

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sounds like a std threat-o-gram hoping to find a mug to fleece.

and of course the letter doesn't say will anything.

 

as long as the client (the 'debt' owner) has your correct and current address and you have not moved, very safe to ignore.

 

ther are no examples I can find of any legal action by BG involving these 'courses' .

 

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to another Centrica/CST claimform Fast Track - Industrial Training Bond . help with N181 please

why have you come here so late after getting the claimform?

 

you now have an N181 , use our search top right for that one

 

but we need all the usual information please!!

 

fill this out :

 

 

 

 

and post up the defence you filled too please

 

dx

 

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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have you sent the CPR 31.14 we told everyone else to send?

why did you not follow the examples upon defence already here

what date is top right of the claimform please?

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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pers i'd not pay it

there are people in front of you 

go read those threads.

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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no fasttrack is gov'd by the claim sum +£10k then it's fast track. but anyway no you should not have returned any forms anyway (use the MCOL website!) unless it was a claimpack from salford court? and doesn't mention MCOL website at all? and yes you should have sought our advice first before defending...

 

sorry but your issue here seems to be you having entered into pointless comms tennis with CST through panicking and trying to get this resolved. your target should have been centrica, if they refused then you shouldn't have been entering into ANY comms at all with their dogs. they will lie, lie and lie again as everything is not in WRITING and thus not useful in court later. i'm also not sure where on CAG these like threads have ever said try to negotiate from advice given by reputable members? where did that advice come from?

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there no evidence YET any of the claims we know of have succeeded to date.

the over whelming evidence is this is a mass attempt by CST to see if they can win any of the numerous claims they must have initiated on behalf of their 'client' that as i've said on CAG before, most probably had no idea they were all going to be raised in court in the 1st place.. 

 

if you lose, then a payment plan can be arranged but you would still get a CCJ. 

i'm not sure where a consent/tomlin sits in all this to avoid a CCJ as long as you pay the instalments agreed, but then again, their claims might start to fail of those infront of you depending upon their/your hearing dates and that could be a game changer for you with regard to evidence/witness statements etc

 

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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have you sent that CPR 31.14 yet, it might well be, as with other threads here, there is NO signed form agreeing to being charged the training fees , other than the original agreement.

do you remember signing a form concerning training fees ?

 

can you go read this thread from about post 68 by badmojo and comeback here and tell us what YOU know about documents you might have signed and the initial training process. like did you sign anything inclass ?

 

 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Part admittance will guarantee a ccj sadly as far as i'm aware..sorry.

you are going to have to produce evidence of why you think you dont owe the whole thing now and that could be hard too

 

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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if you paythe sum adjudged within 30days no it wont show.

 

 

see what @Andyorch thinks about your options, i might have missed something.

 

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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good so the claimant has refused your partial admittance?. you might get away with this then.

you want it small claims as fast track can be very expensive with regards to costs, small claim costs are very limited.

 

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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let @andyorch confirm later but you could always email.

 

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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On 14/01/2022 at 11:55, smooth said:

Dated 12 January 2022

 

On 14/01/2022 at 11:55, smooth said:

IT IS ORDERED THAT

 

The Claimant must file the Directions Questionnaire with the CBC on or before 7 days from service of this

Order

they can't count then....

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Read 10's of claim form threads

all your above will be answered .

 

 

 

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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the judge has stayed things for one month.

 

 

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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3 hours ago, smooth said:

Will I be provided with a solicitor in court for free to seek advice / review my case or am I expected to participate on my without legal advice? Sorry if I’m asking dumb questions, I really don’t understand anything of this and it’s causing me a lot of stress

 

no you are a litigant in person.

 

dx

 

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On 05/05/2022 at 22:09, FTMDave said:

Hasn't the idiot who prepared this WS scored a big own goal here?

 

no see point 13.

...................

 

on that IP address in their exhibits (now hidden along with numerous stuff you'd not redacted)

 

it comes back as the PDF

 

does that anyway relate to you and where you were at that time y/n?

 

IP address.pdf

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ok forget all you are stating above IMHO, thats admitting even more that you owe 'something' ... immaterial.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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IP location will never be exact, but you could have signed that works contract at 11 o'clock at night?

 

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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unless i'm missing something here i think you are up the creek with no paddle

 

they have produced documents signed by you , and the timeline matches.

 

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Whatever is asked, you keep to the statements made in your defence or witness statement.

 

Dx

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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You can't take your p60's nor refer to any docs not Inc as an exhibit in your WS.

 

Dx

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Centrica/CST claimform - Industrial Training Bond

no you wont.

its nothing like you might think it is not like TV!!.

 

also watch out for little chats they might want before you go in...smile and walk away.

 

read your ws a few times, make sure you understand what you have stated.

you most certainly need to ensure if you need too, that you get across that you did not sign all the documents, particularly the training bond stuff, and the claimant has no individually signed training document proving that you did.

 

 

 

 

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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They fleecers may try to unnerve you before the case by wanting a private chat.  

 

I don't believe for one minute that's now people signed up to training. There are two threads here whereby it was supposedly placed Infront of them at the 1st session??. But sadly non have comeback to tell us how they got on .just vanished.

 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Judge lottery Def 

 

If you've been told to pay the full value by xx date, stick in an n245 tomorrow 

For a small £pcm

Dx

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so you can afford to pay it off by 28 days?

if so the CCJ will not be registered. 

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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