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Just before christmas i received a letter from a company called CCS

regarding an alleged debt to the DWP and that i should contact them immediately.

This i ignored.

 

I have not been out of work in the last 15 years,

have only moved house once and have never claimed a penny in benefits in this time a

nd have certainly NEVER had any correspondence from the DWP regarding anything at all.

 

 

Surely if any money was owed to them for anything the DWP would have informed me ?

after all i have not changed my name, national ins no or employer so if they wanted to find me they could easily

 

These letters continued with increased levels of threat, including added costs, court action and doorstep visits none of which happened so

 

 

am i right in presuming this is either some farcsical attempt at intimidating me into paying something

or a possible debt from so far back i honestly have absolutely no idea what it relates to ?

( i honestly cant remember the last time i claimed anything !! )

 

Now CCS have stopped and i have today ( 19/05/15) received a letter from a company calling themselves CSL ( credit solutions limited )

telling me i have 10 days to respond or a doorstep collector is calling !! more threats ??

 

I have not responded to any of the letters as NO proof or evidence of any such debt was supplied

just a total out of the blue demand and i am not in the habit of contacting people to discuss financial matters on the strength of such demands,

and i certainly wouldnt ring them

 

Any advice would be appreciated

 

Many thanks

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I'd contact DWP

 

 

certainly never ever pay or talk to a no powers DCA

about a supposed gov't debt

 

 

they are not baiiiffs

and have

no such legal powers

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Will contact DWP then i guess. Didnt respond to anything as i did not think they had power to do anything and just found the whole thing strange, IF they do turn up is it a case nope not talking to you bye ?

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Yep, first off, contact DWP Debt Management (phone is OK for an initial enquiry - 0345 850 0293 is the number, I think) and ask them what the debt relates to. You can also make a SAR to the DWP, which does not charge the £10 fee, and see if that helps get to the bottom of things.

 

As DX says, do not pay the collection agency nor even discuss the matter with them.

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Will contact DWP then i guess. Didnt respond to anything as i did not think they had power to do anything and just found the whole thing strange, IF they do turn up is it a case nope not talking to you bye ?

 

Yeah, just tell them you are not prepared to discuss the matter and any contact from CCS must be in writing. It is worth finding out what's going on, since the DWP now has extra powers to recover money by earnings attachment even for debts where recovery through the courts is statute barred, so if there's been some mistake it would be good to know ASAP. But the collection agency won't be able to provide the information you need, so it's not worth talking to them.

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Ok thanks very much, So all this spouting and threats of court visits etc is all just bluster with the hope of scaring people into paying then ? i mean the first lot and their letters, threats of court etc am i to take it if they were 100% sure they were right they would of carried through with what they threatened ??

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Ok thanks very much, So all this spouting and threats of court visits etc is all just bluster with the hope of scaring people into paying then ? i mean the first lot and their letters, threats of court etc am i to take it if they were 100% sure they were right they would of carried through with what they threatened ??

 

The agency can't take you to court for a government debt - only the relevant government department itself can do that. If, as seems to be the case, the alleged debt is statute barred then even that will not be possible but, as I said, the DWP does now have some extra powers to collect outstanding debt.

 

This does not mean, however, that they don't have to explain how the debt arose and give you an opportunity to challenge the decision if you believe it is wrong.

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Many thanks for responses its appreciated. Weird thing is i work for the government ( dont hold that against me it pays bills lol ) so its not like they dont where i am but have never heard a thing. as i said many thanks for confirming my course of action with this DCA

 

Cheers

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Just a quick query....On the letter CSL sent it states at the bottom they are regulated by the FCA, and gives their registered number......however upon checking on the FCA website it gives their Interim permissions number as something completely different !!

 

any ideas ?

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Just a quick query....On the letter CSL sent it states at the bottom they are regulated by the FCA, and gives their registered number......however upon checking on the FCA website it gives their Interim permissions number as something completely different !!

 

any ideas ?

 

 

I wouldn't concern yourself with this issue at the moment.. your first priority should be making contact with the DWP to find out how they can say you owe them money if you have never claimed any benefits !

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