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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
    • Thanks for all the suggestions so far I will amend original WS and send again for review.  While looking at my post at very beginning when I submitted photos of signs around the car park I noticed that it says 5 hours maximum stay while the signage sent by solicitor shows 4 hours maximum stay but mine is related to electric bay abuse not sure if this can be of any use in WS.
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Hi

Could anyone help me I am in the process of trying to re claim insurances from bayv but can't find the spreadsheets, also it won't let me create my own thread, sorry I am new to this.

 

 

Here you go....

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?330996-Latest-Spreadsheets-PPI-Claims-and-Charges-Claims-Dec-2011(1-Viewing)-nbsp

 

I think the one you want is for credit card charges.

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Thank you,

 

 

any idea how I start a thread as

 

 

I sent them a SAR and I do not understand my agreements one bit,

 

 

I got 2 laptops at different times, then I learnt my lesson.

 

 

I pay weekly by direct debit,

 

 

I only have 371 or something left to pay but my total on the agreements for everything is £1,772.16 over 156 weeks

 

 

however on the customer overview form it says total pmnt which I am assuming means total payments

not sure if that is to date or what but it's amount is £2,532.41,

 

 

also the agreements they have sent me have no signatures on what so ever.

 

 

I have never been great with maths infact I will admit I am completly rubbish at it but none of this adds up.

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so from the agreement how much each week is for the insurances should be listed.

 

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Well this is where I get confused even more as even though I sent them a SAR

they have not sent me all of my statements only a breif summery for the payments this year.

 

 

There is 3 agreements not sure why one says weekly insurance premium 1.86 per week another says 2.45per week.

then one for a full 220.00 plus interest of 162.00 for EPS this is the one at 2.45 per week

then on the 3rd one all sorted at 1.06 per week total price 220 + 131 interest

but then at the bottom it says total (EPS) Insurance Premium payable is £165.36

 

 

I can't make head nor tail of any of them

 

 

the interest rate on one is 27.00% per annum fixed and the APR is 55.40% on another it is 24.58% per annum fixed and 50.14 APR.

 

 

I am confused as hell

 

 

I have no idea what I am paying where to be honest

 

 

I can't understand any of these agreements.

 

 

oh my god I think I have just realised I am super thick

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1.86PCW on one at ?? int rate

2.45PCW on another at ?? int rate

3.1.06PCW on 3rd at ??int rate

 

 

you need the weekly date you paid them.

 

 

start and en date for each agreement

shoud be easy

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I only have 2 items though

 

Why would I be paying 3 lots of insurance it does not make sense, I did get a letter of them late last year saying my payments have been lowered because something had finished, they did not say what had finished and for some reason they have not included any statements before the lower payments in the SAR just payments that have been made since my payments were lowered.

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then ask them for all the statements

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I have but surely they should of sent them with the SAR. I have attempted to fill in this spreadsheet I think I have done it all wrong could anyone have a look and see for me pleas? I think I have worked out what I am paying monthly on insurance oh well I can't post it as I don't have enough posts

 

 

hope this works

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COMPOUND INTEREST CALCULATORPERSONAL DETAILSCLAIM CALCULATIONClaimant Name:Total of Charges£382.20Lender Name:Buy As You ViewCompound Interest£752.08Account Number:Claim From:14/07/2012Claim To:18/03/2015Total£1,134.28Interest Rate (APR):50.14%Date of

ChargeDescriptionAmount of

ChargeNumber of

Days ElapsedCompound

Interest14/07/201217 Inch Laptop£382.20977£752.0815 Inch Laptop

I have took my personal details out but does this look about right, I have worked out that the 3rd agreement is for the EPS only therefore have just gone of that one for the APR

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Caroline, it sounds to me as though they haven't fulfilled their obligation to provide you with a full payment history within your SAR. Just ask them to provide ALL statements.

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you can attach your spreadsheet via the go advanced button bottom right of these msg boxes

then select manage attachment

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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'require' maybe but it is NOT compulsory.

 

 

matters not what is written in their T&C's

 

 

there is NO legal requirement to have any insurance on HP goods.

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I have looked over the terms and conditions and

I can't see anywhere that states it is even required,

 

 

I have emailed them this morning to let them know that I now plan on putting together a complaint to the FOS as I still believe it was missold,

 

 

the best thing is they keep ringing me and asking if I would like to take out more products,

 

 

I only work part time but I would rather go hungry for an entire month and buy what I need than to line their pockets with another penny of my hard earned cash. I certainly learnt my lesson.

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I received my full statements from bayv, and have noticed something funny about it,

 

 

I moved to direct debit in early January 2013 after making a complaint against a rep,

now the direct debit used to be around 17 or 18 pounds per week.

 

 

Late last year 2014 I received a letter saying an item had been settled and my payments were being reduced to just under 14 pounds.

However according to the statements I have been paying just under 14 pounds since I started direct debit.

 

 

I emailed and got this response back

 

Dear Miss........

The amount stated within the statement is not inclusive of the EPS cover.

Once those payments are added in the weekly payment does relate to what you were paying.

 

All of the account numbers are also listed within the letter that was sent out that you have received.

 

Are you able to confirm what items are missing from the Subject Access Request that you have placed?

Apart from the email that you have previously noted?

 

Kind Regards,

 

Rachel

 

Rachel Thomas

Customer Experience Manager

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Ok can anyone help me here,

 

 

Elaine mockler stated in an earlier email to myself that I was not paying for optional all sorted insurance,

 

 

now today Rachel Thomas has stated that I am paying this and it is optional and I can cancel anytime, I shall attach the emails.

 

 

Where do I now stand with this as I did not even know I had this added to my account?

 

 

I did not know i was paying for it,

 

 

I certainly did not request it or ask for it?

 

 

is this not fraud?

 

 

The HP agreements I was sent in the SAR do not have any signatures on at all.

 

 

below are the emails sent between myself and Rachel today.

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Is an email not classed as in writing,

and why are you ignoring the fact that this has been put on my accounts in the first place without my knowledge is this not fraud???

 

 

I did not request it neither did I want it,

 

 

I asked you is it common practice for your staff to just add items to a customer’s account,

 

 

I am telling you now in writing in this email that I DO NOT want this insurance I not only wish to cancel it

but I wish for all payments to be refunded with interest as it was missold

in fact it was not even sold it was just added without permission pretty sure this is unlawful.

 

 

The agreements you have sent me do not even have any signatures on.

 

 

I have attached a spread sheet to the previous email with my claim.

Which as of Friday 27th of will be being sent to the FSCS and the FOS with a complaint.

 

The fact your company has added items to my account without my permission in the first place is a complaint

I shall be taking to bbc Watch dog, and my local trading standards.

 

Regards

 

Dear Miss ....

 

All sorted is optional cover as we have stated, as per the Terms and Conditions of the Agreement

which you have been provided with True Copies the All Sorted is stated on there, and cancellation of this is requested in writing.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Rachel

 

Rachel Thomas

Customer Experience Manager

 

From: ......

Sent: 24 March 2015 11:30

To: customer.services

Subject: RE: cis sheet.xls

Importance: High

 

after going through all of the statements the summary of payments according to your account codes and the statements you have sent me

I have paid in total £451.48 towards all sorted cover this is according to the details you sent me in the summary of all accounts,

 

 

this is not EPS it is all sorted the insurance you state in your letter to me dated 19th March 2015 is optional.

 

 

Therefore with this I am attaching the new spread sheet I plan on including in my complaints to the FOS

and the FSCS along with copies of all letters you have sent me especially the ones stating the amounts

I have paid to account numbers A446132 and A381864 which and I quote you

 

A381864 – All Sorted cover for the Samsung 17” laptop. Account opened in June 2011 and settled in full in August 2014

A446132 – All Sorted cover for the Toshiba 15” laptop. Account opened in July 2012 and has a current balance of £63.34.

 

Are both in fact all sorted cover not EPS cover a separate complaint will be made for that one.

 

The letter you sent me on the 19th March states as follows:

 

All Sorted Cover

 

A warranty known as ‘All Sorted’ can be purchased by customers if they so choose. (which I did not)

 

 

A leaflet and dedicated website is available for more details on this and a leaflet has been attached for yours attention.

 

 

In summary, All Sorted gives you unlimited repairs, loan products (subject to availability),

no call out charges as well as a number of other benefits.

 

 

The payments are spread over the term to correspond with the agreement for minimal payments. All sorted is optional

 

Again I shall point out that I did not request this, I do not want it, never asked for it neither do I need it!

 

From: customer.services [mailto:[email protected]]

Sent: 24 March 2015 09:25

To: .......

Subject: RE: cis sheet.xls

 

Dear Miss .....

Did you receive a reply from the emails that you sent to us?

 

Kind Regards,

 

Rachel

 

Rachel Thomas

Customer Experience Manager

 

From: ......

Sent: 24 March 2015 09:23

To: customer.services

Subject: RE: cis sheet.xls

 

Just the emails now.

 

From: customer.services [mailto:[email protected]]

Sent: 24 March 2015 09:21

To: .....(

Subject: RE: cis sheet.xls

 

Dear Miss ...

The amount stated within the statement is not inclusive of the EPS cover.

Once those payments are added in the weekly payment does relate to what you were paying.

 

All of the account numbers are also listed within the letter that was sent out that you have received.

 

Are you able to confirm what items are missing from the Subject Access Request that you have placed? Apart from the email that you have previously noted?

 

Kind Regards,

 

Rachel

 

Rachel Thomas

Customer Experience Manager

 

From: .....

Sent: 24 March 2015 09:14

To: customer.services

Subject: RE: cis sheet.xls

 

I do apologise it is a full statement, although there is still items missing from the SAR.

 

 

But I have also noticed that according to this statement I have been paying 13.81 weekly from 2013 according to this.

 

 

I shall be now requesting my bank statements from my bank as up until Late 2014 I was paying almost £17 per week.

Something does not add up here.

 

From: customer.services [mailto:[email protected]]

Sent: 24 March 2015 08:47

To: .....

Subject: RE: cis sheet.xls

 

Dear Miss .....

 

The statement that you have received lists all payments made on your account since it started in June 2011. The account numbers are as follows:

 

DA92195 – Samsung 17” laptop, account opened June 2011 and closed in July 2012 and refinanced with your Toshiba 15” laptop.

PA92195 – EPS cover for the Samsung 17” laptop. Account opened in June 2011 and closed in December 2012

A381864 – All Sorted cover for the Samsung 17” laptop. Account opened in June 2011 and settled in full in August 2014

 

DB76269 – Toshiba 15” laptop. Account refinanced with the Samsung 17” laptop and opened in July 2012 and currently has a balance of £294.84.

PB76269 – EPS cover for the Toshiba 15” laptop, Account opened in July 2012 but closed in December 2012

A446132 – All Sorted cover for the Toshiba 15” laptop. Account opened in July 2012 and has a current balance of £63.34.

 

You state in your previous email that you made a complaint via email in January 2013, from what email address did you send the email?

 

Kind Regards,

 

Rachel

 

Rachel Thomas

Customer Experience Manager

 

 

From: ...

Sent: 23 March 2015 12:51

To: CSTeamLeaders; Elaine Mockler; Customer Services Management Team

Subject: RE: cis sheet.xls

Importance: High

 

With reference to the statements I received at the weekend, can someone please explain to me why I have 6 account numbers and only 2 items?

 

The account numbers on the payment summary of all accounts are as follows:

 

DA92195

DB76269

A381864

A446132

PA92195

PB76269

 

What are all of these?

 

Regards

 

Miss

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bayv, perfect homes, they all do the same to everyone.

 

 

they charge it because you and everyone else did not ead the small print

 

 

if it wasn't for these insurances the businesses would have gone bust within a matter of months

 

 

its well known it was part of their business model from day one

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I did read the terms and conditions and nowhere does it even mention any of these insurances,

 

 

I scoured my copy over and over wondering if I was just going blind

( I have a toddler that refuses to sleep more than 2hours a night, I am not even sure what day it is lol)

 

 

is anybody aware of any successful claims against Bayv,

 

 

I have seen alot of posts about people trying to reclaim but none stating that they got any money back?

 

 

I have given them until friday to respond and then I am lodging my complaint with the FSCS.

 

 

Wondering if I will be just wasting my time?

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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FSCS? you mean the FOS?

 

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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