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    • thread tidied. new thread for the court claim is here  
    • new thread created for this claimform please post here now for anything to do with it now . pop up on the bulk court website detailed on the claimform. [if it is not working return after the w/end or the next day if week time] . When you select ‘Register’, you will be taken to a screen titled ‘Sign in using Government Gateway’. Choose ‘Create sign in details’ to register for the first time. You will be asked to provide your name, email address, set a password and a memorable recovery word. You will be emailed your Government Gateway 12-digit User ID. You should make a note of your memorable word, or password as these are not included in the email.  then log in to the bulk court Website .  select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box. .  then using the details required from the claimform . defend all leave jurisdiction unticked  you DO NOT file a defence at this time [BUT you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 ] click thru to the end confirm and exit the website .. get a CCA Request running to the claimant . https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332502-cca-request-consumer-credit-act-1974-updated-january-2015/ .. Leave the £1 PO unsigned and uncrossed . get a CPR  31:14  request running to the solicitors [if one is not listed send to the claimant] ... https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332546-legal-cpr-3114-request-request-for-information-when-a-claim-has-been-issued/ . .use our other CPR letter if the claim is for an OD or Telecom Debt or Util debt]  https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/332546-legal-cpr-3114-request-request-for-information-when-a-claim-has-been-issued/ on BOTH type your name ONLY Do Not sign anything .do not ever use or give an email . you DO NOT await the return of ANY paperwork  you MUST file a defence regardless by day 33 from the date on the claimform [1 in the count] ..............  
    • Which Court have you received the claim from ? Northampton  Name of the Claimant ? lowell Solicitors : Overdales solicitors  How many defendant's  joint or self ? Self Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to.  13 may 2024 What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? 1. the claim is for the sum of £6163.61due by the defendant under an agreement regulated by the consumer credit act 1974 for hsbc uk bank plc. Account (16 digits) 2. The defendant failed to maintain contractual payments required by the agreement and a default notice was served under s 87(1)  of the consumer credit act 1974 which as not been compiled with. 3. The debt was legally assigned to the Claimant on 23/08/23, notice on which as been given to the defendant.  4. The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the county courts act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of issue of these proceedings in the sum of £117.53 the Claimant claims the sum of £6281.14. Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ?   Not to my knowledge. Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online but it was for a smaller amount they kept on increasing this with me asking Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. It was assigned to a debt collection agency  Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? yes  Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes I also made offers to pay original creditor a smaller amount but was not replied to Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? No Why did you cease payments? I was made redundant and got a less paid job I also spent some time on furlough during covid and spent some 3 months on ssp off work. What was the date of your last payment? May 2021 Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes at the time I communicated with all my creditor's that I was running out of funds to pay the original agreements once my redundancy money ran out that was when my accounts defaulted. I then wrote to all my creditor's with pro rata offers of payments but debt collectors took over the accounts.
    • Just an update for all. I received about a letter every other week, increasing in threat levels. Then I hadn't had one for a about two weeks, then Saturday received a carbon copy of the very first letter they sent me in February. Made me laugh, rinse and repeat. 
    • So, your response was not received by the SCP as you did not send it with a valid stamp. Therefore, from my two option in post #14, the first option is the only one available to you, but you do not have the option of asking to be sentenced at the fixed penalty level as the reason the SCP did not receive your response was down to you. Here's a reminder of what to do: Respond to the SJPN by pleading “Not Guilty” to both charges. In the “Reasons for pleading Not Guilty” box state that you are willing to plead guilty to the speeding charge providing, and only providing, the “Fail to Provide Driver's Details" (FtP) charge is dropped. This is a tried and tested method to deal with your problem and is almost always successful. Before the pandemic it was necessary to attend court to do this "deal" because it needs the agreement of the police prosecutor.. During the pandemic courts made every effort to have as few  people as possible attend and they began doing this deal under the "Single Justice" procedure without the defendant's attendance. Some courts have carried this procedure on whilst others have reverted to a personal attendance being necessary. If you are required to attend, your case will be taken out of the SJ procedure and you will be given a date for a hearing in the normal Magistrates' Court. If that is the way they do it in the area involved you will have to attend, see the prosecutor and offer your "deal" in person. 
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Here you are ..one WS in support of your defence...edit or add if not correct ...post if unsure.

 

That should spoil Brian's weekend.:madgrin:

 

 

 

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great WS

 

 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi Andy

 

Ye, looks good to me, I just updated Name, Case Num ect.

 

I will look more in to the different sections of the law that you have quoted so I have a better understand of there use.

 

Once again, thanks for all you help with this.

 

Regards

 

Potman

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Hope your pleased... took me 3 hours to draft that:madgrin:

 

I have laid it out in simple terms..... not much legalese as its important you understand its contents in layman terms.

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Yes, that's what I needed, it all ok for a WS quoting different sections of the law, but if a question is put by the claimant

of more legality for a layman such as me it's difficult to be able to argue the technicalities.

 

The way you have drafted the WS, gives me a chance to study the sections quoted and understand them and this

at least gives me a fighting chance.

 

Is there anything that comes to mind, that you think BC might put as an argument to the request for validation ?

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BC has said that they have served the Assignment Letter to me, and I say that I have not received it, looking at the Law Of property act, it states

that in order to prove the assignment has been completed the letter would need to sent via recorded delivery or a proof of posting should be made avaliable.

 

"Section 196 LPA 1925 refers to “registered letter”. The postal service “registered post” no longer exists. Instead, a notice should now be sent either as first class post with a certificate of posting (available through Royal Mail) or by recorded delivery; under the Recorded Delivery Act 1962 any notice which is deemed served by registered post will also be deemed served if sent by recorded delivery."

 

Would BC have had to provide the evidence, i.e the recorded delivery slip / proof of posting in their evidence ?

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BC has said that they have served the Assignment Letter to me, and I say that I have not received it, looking at the Law Of property act, it states

that in order to prove the assignment has been completed the letter would need to sent via recorded delivery or a proof of posting should be made avaliable.

 

"Section 196 LPA 1925 refers to “registered letter”. The postal service “registered post” no longer exists. Instead, a notice should now be sent either as first class post with a certificate of posting (available through Royal Mail) or by recorded delivery; under the Recorded Delivery Act 1962 any notice which is deemed served by registered post will also be deemed served if sent by recorded delivery."

 

Would BC have had to provide the evidence, i.e the recorded delivery slip / proof of posting in their evidence ?

 

Disregard that...they dont send them registered or recorded or at all.... I have covered the assignment sufficiently within the statement

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Most important that you now finalise it and serve it on the claimant and court ...don't miss your deadline stated within the Notice of Allocation.

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I have spoke to the court this morning and explained to them that I only received BC's WS on the 2nd, as the file is held at my local court I have said I will deliver the courts

copy by hand and post it in their letter box, which I have been assured it will be added to the file.

 

I was going to send BC copy via recorded delivery this afternoon, as the case is on the 17th of this month its gonna be a day late only 13 days before the case rather than 14,

but will explain the lateness is due to BC waiting till the last day before the deadline to provide any WS.

 

Just hope the court accept this.

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Yo Andy

 

Just wanted to say thank you for your help with this,

 

 

I was in court last week and

 

 

the judge struck the case out on the grounds they had failed to satisfy CCA by not providing the Agreement they referred to in there summons details.

 

The Judge also commented on how well constructed my Witness Statement was, which is all down to you.

 

So that's about £300 plus quid, plus what they paid for the debt down the drain for Lowell :smile:

 

Once again thanks for all your help.

 

Regards

 

Potman

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Excellent news Potman ...delighted for you.

 

Thread title amended to reflect the result.

 

Regards

 

Andy

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